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How to Make Sure Your Shipping Policies Are Complete by November 1, 2020

Shipping Policies are a requirement for all Sellers on Discogs starting November 1, 2020 (please note, the timeline for this requirement was recently adjusted. Read more about this update here).

If you don’t have Shipping Policies set up by November 1, or if your Shipping Policy is not “complete,” your items will appear as unavailable to some or all Buyers in the marketplace. To avoid disruptions to your store and sales, we recommend making sure your Shipping Policies are set up for all potential orders.

This is a guide to navigating a “complete” Shipping Policy. For a more in-depth guide (with video) to setting up your Shipping Policies, head here.

What is a “complete” Shipping Policy?

“Complete” means that your Shipping Policy will need to have at least one shipping method to cover the possibility of all orders through your shop. Within your Shipping Policy, you can have as many methods as you like, which can be as granular as you want, but it’s essential to have at least one “complete” method. That looks as follows:

  • Ensure the ‘Order subtotal must be at least/under’ is 0.00
  • Select “All mt items” from the ‘Method applies to’ section on the left of your method (this is the default option): 

  • The final line of the method uses “and up” with either a ‘Flat rate’ or ‘Per each additional’ value for the quantity or weight range.

Example: In the screenshot below, I’ve applied to a flat rate of €20 for orders of 21 items and up. If you’re setting up your method by weight, you can apply a flat rate charge for above a certain weight. 

Example: In the screenshot below, I’ve applied an incremental charge of €5 per each additional 500 grams over 2kg (2000 grams). If you’re setting up your method by quantity, you can apply ‘per each’ for additional items over a certain number (e.g. €5 per each additional 2 items).

Any Shipping Policy that doesn’t have a method that takes into account all order possibilities will be considered incomplete and your listings will appear as unavailable to buyers in that region. A Shipping Policy that covers just one format or orders up to a limited range (2kg, for example) will be considered incomplete. 

How do I know if my Shipping Policy is complete?

We’ve added some indicators in the Shipping Policy editor to make it clear when your Policy is complete or if it needs work (and what you need to do to get it to a complete state).

To the right side of each of your policies, you’ll either see a green checkmark saying “This policy is complete” or a red exclamation point saying “This policy is incomplete.” If you see green, you’re good to go; this policy will be applied in the Marketplace, and the shipping costs will automatically be applied to your buyers’ orders.

Note, even if your Shipping Policy is showing as complete, it’s important to double-check you’ve inputted your shipping costs correctly to ensure your buyers will be charged the desired amount for shipping when an order is placed.


If you see red, you’ll need to either set up a new policy (if you want to ship to that region) or tweak the policy to get it to a valid state. If you click on the incomplete policy, you’ll get a banner with more information on what you need to add or remove to make the policy complete.

In the above example, as it’s an empty method, the banner is telling me all the things I’m missing to make it complete. You can click through each hyperlink for further details on “Formats, “Order sizes,” and “Order values.”

If you have a shipping method set up that’s missing just one element in order for it to be complete, the banner will specify what it is. In the example below, my only shipping method has a €20.00 value for “Order subtotal must be at least.” This should be removed to apply to orders of all values.

Note, if you want to restrict your orders to being over a certain value, you can determine this in your Minimum Order Total in Seller Settings. The ‘Order subtotal’ field in your Shipping Policies won’t affect that setting.

The following are considered incomplete policies:

  • No “All my items” method, but separate methods for each format, e.g. Vinyl (Large), Vinyl (Small), CDs, Cassettes, etc. This doesn’t account for formats not listed in the editor, and therefore is considered incomplete.
  • A method only offering local pickup. Local pickup cannot be offered exclusively with no postal options.
  • A shipping method with the “Order subtotal must be at least” above 0.00. To prevent orders below a certain amount being placed, you can use the “Minimum Order Total” in your Seller Settings. Even though the amount in your ‘Order Subtotal’ will be 0.00, the “Minimum Order Total” will be respected and orders below that value cannot be placed.

What will happen if you have no Shipping Policies?

If you don’t have a Shipping Policy set up, or it doesn’t cover all your potential orders (see above), your listings will show up as unavailable in the Buyer’s region. You won’t be blocked or banned from the Marketplace, but Buyers won’t be able to purchase from you.

Can I set up Shipping Policies for some countries and not others?

You control where you’re willing to ship to. If you’d like to only ship domestically, set up a Shipping Policy for your own country (again, make sure it covers all potential orders by format, quantity, and weight). Your listings will appear as unavailable to buyers outside of your country.

It’s the same process if you want to offer your inventory to only a handful of countries. Your listings will show up where you have complete Shipping Policies set up and will be unavailable in the countries with no Shipping Policies.

Looking for more Shipping Policy info? Find everything you need, from set-up guides with video walk-throughs, shipping rate templates, webinar recordings, FAQs, and more here.

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413 Comments
  • Oct 31,2020 at 13:22

    An idea for all people unhappy and leaving discogs over the absurd new shipping policy. If any of you have submitted a new release to the data base, you can request removal of the release, for a release to be removed you need 4 votes, as we the users have set up the database, i do not see why discogs should benefit from the releases we have created when they are forcing us to leave discogs. I am sure that there are so many unhappy users, that it would be no problem getting 4 votes

  • Oct 31,2020 at 12:20

    Ebay is looking very attractive these days.

  • Oct 31,2020 at 09:13

    Will people from other countries be able to see my listing if I see shipping policy just for my country? And then send me PM with question to set the shipping for them?
    I’m going to leave it as it is.

  • Oct 31,2020 at 07:56

    Why policy must end “and up” when I don’ ship f.eg. above 2kg? And other thing… shipping prices are going up once a year or two. I don’t have time to monitor it and edit when it goes up. Leave it as it is – calculate shipping by order. Or you simply shoot yourself in the foot

  • Oct 31,2020 at 07:47

    Why policy must end “and up” when I don’ ship f.eg. above 2kg?

  • Oct 31,2020 at 03:10

    I see you are still forcing this through tomorrow so thats me out of here. Bye Discogs.

  • Oct 31,2020 at 01:40

    I have spent 45 minutes trying to save Policy changes to shipments to the USA (as per instruction(?) video) to no avail (hey and its only 1 of 250 countries) – Its say incomplete ;-(((((((((

  • Oct 30,2020 at 20:20

    Figured I’d voice my opinion somewhere. This shipping policy stuff is absurd. Why fix something that isn’t broken? Leave us small sellers to accurately calculate shipping by order. Not all of us have inventories with upwards of 50,000 items. We don’t have the time to deal with such arduous calculations (certainly doesn’t help that the interface is completely dysfunctional).

  • Oct 30,2020 at 18:47

    Is it waste of time that we write in this?
    No one (No Discogs User!) wants new shipping policy.
    You know the right one!
     
    Please! Please! Please!

  • Oct 30,2020 at 18:41

    shipping is never accurate when you do it this way. its best to just calculate shipping per order. its better for buyer and seller. guess im another lost seller… this is so lame.

  • Oct 30,2020 at 15:53

    Sorry – I don´t understand half of what you try to tell me – why the complication?

    I sell so very few records – and I am NOT going to spend all the hours trying to figure out what you mean.

    Stop the nonsense, or you will force me onto Ebay.

  • Oct 30,2020 at 15:18

    Looks like they r going with this nonsense, got message from Discogs: they are so grateful for my contributions and work they will blank my 800 listings on Monday. New post in Blog is full of BS, not explaining question asked in comments below, it’s incredible how this people act, ignoring us, what kind of personalities? It use to be The Wipers from Portland, what is this?

  • Oct 29,2020 at 15:23

    i like how we have to come back to this blog post from September 10th to comment on shipping policies as you’ve turned off comments on all subsequent blog posts on this topic – how very telling, who are these blog posts for if you don’t want any dialogue, it’s just one way, not the ‘community’ you like to bang on about so much outside of discogs

  • Oct 29,2020 at 10:44

    I just spent HOURS filling in my shipping policies (I’d estimate about 3 hours getting all the countries under the correct categories and all the prices and services entered) only to come back to the shipping policies page to find they’d all disappeared apart from the incomplete one I had from years ago. To say I’m frustrated and annoyed would be the understatement of a century. I’m trying so very hard right now to not swear

  • Oct 28,2020 at 09:02

    So pointless, and unnecessarily complicated.

  • Oct 28,2020 at 03:33

    Although I’m a non-professional mini-seller with only between 35 & 50 records to sale, my prices are reasonable so I’ve always had a few Discogs orders in september/october 2015 to 2019 (between 2 and 5 a month).

    This month I’ve had 4 orders at french sites Rakuten and CDandLP, and 2 orders at eBay (I’ve only 28 items to sale at eBay, and only in the E.U. in most cases)… and NONE order at Discogs !! I got ZERO Discogs order between august 27 and today (oct. 28)… And yet my prices are lower at Discogs, (because less fees than the 3 other sites I sell at)… I don’t believe in coincidence… and I don’t think it’s because I don’t use this awful ASP editor (and I won’t).

    When checking at some releases I sell, I see that between 20 and 35 % of my “rival” sellers still don’t use the ASP editor, 4 days before the november 1st deadline !… which could explain all those new articles & videos from Discogs about the “good use” of their ASP editor… But hey, sorry, there is no good use of a rotten tool !

    So from november 1st I guess many potential buyers will see myriads of unavailable items at Discogs… No big deal for them, they will look (and find) elsewhere.

  • Oct 26,2020 at 14:07

    I’ve added my shipping policies one month ago. The sales have dropped by 60% since, compared to the first nine months of this year. Business was better without shipping policies.

  • Oct 26,2020 at 12:05

    please Discogs, do your homework again. This isn’t working. Tried to do it, but it doesn’t work. See all the massages. You will lose your sellers…

  • Oct 26,2020 at 10:47

    Just six-days time to 10s-of-millions of greyed-out items that cannot be bought on Discogs.

    Let’s see if a 50% loss of revenue on Nov 1st and 100s-of-1000s of unpaid invoices for the preceding month (as Discogs will effectively be asking for our money whilst denying us the service that we pay-for) focuses whatever ‘mind’ is behind this corporate suicide.

    As for me, my inventory is now on Ebay and completely delisted here.

    My fees are being withheld and I encourage all unhappy sellers to do likewise.

  • Oct 26,2020 at 10:41

    Hello Discogs, is there anyone who cares that this doesn’t work?

  • Oct 25,2020 at 07:35

    Discogs – this is an absolute joke for us in the UK. We use ‘The Post Office’ to send all items and they operate a three type service of which all have to be adhered to. One is size, two is weight and the 3rd is Country. I have no idea how much an item will cost to send until I go to the Post Office. If someone wants to buy a record from say from Italy I can give them a price because I send them a link to the Post Office payment options, its not 100% until I take the package to the Post Office and I’ve taken many hits to my own wallet because I under charged the customer but I’m fine with that. You are going to lose a lot of loyal people with this crazy policy. I have a friend here in the UK who has 70,000 items with you and will be removing them all if you go ahead with this plan.
    My business friend are already looking into other options to sell our records because this postage plan of yours is not workable here in the United Kingdom.

  • Oct 24,2020 at 01:23

    “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated “? J. Lydon
    Years of contributing, buying and selling just to be screwed over.

  • Oct 20,2020 at 18:02

    I have 150 sales in 8 years, so small volume – I did try to do this, but it won’t launch for me to even get started. Just an endless loop of links to ‘how to’ links with screenshots. What was so ‘broken’ about the old way that Discogs had to ‘fix’ it? I hope you can stay afloat after your income plummets unless somehow there’s a bug that bypasses this new requirement.

  • Oct 20,2020 at 10:39

    Did anyone else notice that most of the sellers with “complete seller policies” have raised their shipping fees ?
    I tried to buy a single from a seller I know, and after putting in in the cart, where I read “shipping € 10”, I wrote him and asked why from € 6 he had gone to 10…
    he replied : “I can’t use those damn shipping policies, shipping is € 6, not 10.Just buy the record and don’t pay, I will send you the right invoice”.
    That’s what we’ll have to do in the future : check every time the real shipping fees with the seller, before buying the records we want. Is this what Discogs is after ?
    (By the way, I am a seller too, and my shipping policies are complete, but 1t took 2 weeks before I understood how it works, and still I’m not completely sure. The only thing I know is that I am selling much less than one month ago. Coincidence…?).

  • Oct 19,2020 at 11:00

    – I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you forced us without our agreement.
    – I globally disagree with this new Discogs politics.
    – Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listing unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes.
    – (and for the contributors) I will stop immediately to fill the database with new references.

  • Oct 18,2020 at 09:24

    somehow i cant complete my policies?! trying already 30 min. it keeps teling me “he final rate range must end with “and up” to handle any number of items or weights.”

  • Oct 14,2020 at 14:53

    It must be self-evident by now that there are many sellers who will not set up the required shipping policies by Nov 1st. The reasons have been outlined sensibly by hundreds of people. Vast amounts of possible purchases will become unavailable on Discogs. It is already clear that many sellers are restricting their sales to smaller geographic areas. This is ultimately bad for sellers, buyers, and Discogs. The new shipping policy should not be compulsory. If indeed it does benefit sellers then those who use it can do so. The remainder of us who enjoy building, listing, chatting and invoicing our buyers could be happily left disadvantaged. At a precarious time for business it is unwise to follow through with this new required policy. Nobody will benefit. Discogs will shrink instantly and buyers will start to look elsewhere.

  • Oct 14,2020 at 03:35

    I cannot believe Discogs is trying to fix something that is not broken. I have sold items on Discogs for 8 years and this new shipping policy is over the top and as a seller unworkable… I am looking at going back to ebay and ihaveit.io which puts my items onto ebay for me without filling in templates which I cannot get to work and keep coming up as incomplete … Please listen and read the feedback you are getting and more important FROM YOUR YOUR CUSTOMERS which are paying you Your revenue stream is going to go only one way DOWN !

  • Oct 13,2020 at 15:30

    I try to figure out more than 2hours gave up and call a computer nerd friend who help me out (i think i am not the stupiest person on planet) however we got it now and it is f..ing sh.t i got the feeling sales go down persons got confused if they buy not all in one and many more problems. And this in times of Corona when shipping possibilities and prices changes weekly?! i cannot understand this and i aggree to the most here this is realy not smart. for me as seller i may profit because a lot persons wont play that game or wont understand how it works but the plattform will loose at the end i think because some thought “hey i got a idea”… controll the sales or make more profit for paypal or other big players would also work in a other way. listen to the people who feed the platform!

  • Oct 13,2020 at 10:26

    Well!!!!! After several attempts at understanding the new shipping policies, and perhaps discovering why this is a good thing to do. I have completely failed at both. And having now read many many equally disgruntled and confused sellers I therefore realize Discogs, that you have taken aim at the stars and shot yourself squarely in the foot. Well done you. And as the droves of us leave your rapidly shrinking husk of a once healthy and vibrant community, I look forward to discovering a selling platform that hasn’t forgotten that this is about people and their shared love of music. I trust the draught of many open doors makes you rethink on the wisdom of your decision. I wish my friends and customers well and hope to reconnect on a friendlier more supportive planet. goodbye

  • Oct 13,2020 at 09:21

    Disgusted with this new system. The system is very convoluted, I have tried it several times and I always end up leaving it …

  • Oct 13,2020 at 04:05

    Okay, you’ve forced me off Discogs. I’ve been polite so far but, seriously, fuck you. Your pathetic excuse for a shipping policy system has destroyed all the hard work I’ve put in over the years and I’ve had enough.

    To those who were just about to buy from me, I’m sorry – I can no longer sell to you because the shipping has been overwritten by the shipping policy editor. So that’s it. I’m delisting and I’m gone.

    Good luck everyone.

  • Oct 12,2020 at 06:43

    Why can’t i put more than 9 days to deliver?
    If mine got to the states in less than 9 days, i’d be amazed
    Discogs ?

  • Oct 11,2020 at 10:02

    Okay, I’ve watched the web seminar and also gone in to the “shipping policy” editor to check it out.

    There are a number of flies in the ointment, still, and I sell items only in a single format!

    Here are the items that seem to be NOT taken in to account by the shipping policy editor.

    – Priority mail cost is determined by the BUYER’S zip code which I then add my ‘secure packaging’ cost of $1.25 – $1.50 to determine the shipping fee to the buyer. Shipping policy editor has no way of entering either the buyer zip code to gather the USPS cost and then add my fee to it to determine the actual shipping fee.

    – Buyer should be able to add insurance to their shipping cost if desired. This would be based on the cost of the item(s) and is determined by USPS.

    – For Canada (specifically) the ‘zip code’ is required in order to determine the mailing cost (for any type of mail), and then my ‘secure packaging’ fee (as above) would need to be added to that fee which is determined by USPS.

    – Registered mail is requested by some buyers, however, USPS does not offer it to all destinations at all times. The buyers country would need to be checked by USPS at any given time to determine if registered mail is even available for their country at the time the item is purchased.

    – Any non-USA destination (due to Covid-19) may not be accepting mail from USA at any given time as determined by USPS. That information can only be determined at the time the buyer is attempting to make a purchase.

    – All non-USA destinations shipping cost ARE NOT determined only by region. There are many times when the cost of shipping to countries within the same region is different. For Sellers to attempt to set-up a Shipping Policy for every country in all regions would be cumbersome beyond reasonable.

    Since the above issues are real and valid and would affect buyers in the USA and well as around the world, I believe that the “Shipping Policy” requirement needs to be revisited.

  • Oct 11,2020 at 08:34

    My shipping policies have always been listed within the “Seller Terms” section. I also find this with many other sellers that I make purchases from. This has allowed me to manage for ALL possible scenarios and contingencies, as well as give the buyers some options if they choose, whereas the new “Shipping Policy” tool that you have put out and say that you will require us to use DOES NOT give enough options or make provisions for all possible contingencies. It also does not allow for giving the buyer any choices should they want to have faster mailing service and/or insurance added, just for example.

    I don’t believe that it would be possible for you to create a “shipping policy” tool that actually would provide for all possible contingencies as well as give options to the seller. That task would be too great and the subsequent set-up by the buyers would be VERY cumbersome such that you would be losing seller left and right (which you seem to be doing a good job of already from the comments that I am reading).

    As I have indicated above, you should only be requiring that the sellers include a ‘shipping policy’ within their “Seller Terms” so that the buyer can be aware, before making any purchase, what they are getting in to as far as shipping goes. There is also the good old fashioned way of just contacting the seller if there are any questions at all. I have included within my “Seller Terms” a notice that buyers outside the USA should contact me BEFORE making purchases since so many of them seem to be surprised by our least expensive method of shipping, by many of them rarely contact me anyway, which tells me that they haven’t read the “Seller Terms” which is on them. Buyers have to take some responsibility when making purchases.

  • Oct 10,2020 at 08:12

    apart from being a totally ridiculously policy, meaning a lot of work for (especially private) sellers. it also just doesn’t work that way. for example the austrian post offices charge per size/height and then there are different fees in european countries, shipping fees within the EU are cheaper than to non-EU countries. One thing is for sure, I won’t be the only seller, who will have less orders than in the past and therefore discogs will also lose money with this policy.

  • Oct 9,2020 at 20:39

    Still absolutely insane to force this on individuals selling small numbers of items from their collections.
    It’s incomprehensible that you are willing to destroy the goodwill of the people that built this marketplace.

  • Oct 8,2020 at 09:11

    Discogs use to be great…not so much anymore. Thanks for make this new shipping policy mandate. I use to me able to pay my rent. Not anymore! Thanks Discogs!

  • Oct 8,2020 at 05:24

    as an aside, I had a 300% sales increase last month, nothing to do with automatic shipping settings, it was how hard i sourced and how attractively i priced my hand picked inventory that sealed the deal. Next month 0% sales i guess (and 0% discogs fees too)

  • Oct 8,2020 at 05:20

    oh wait, there are 4 testimonials from sellers that approve. I take it all back.

  • Oct 8,2020 at 05:17

    +1 for a flawed deployment. Overcooked and unintuitive, really jurassic interface, impossible to navigate all permutations of shipping requirements. Example, i wish to ship 12″s as cheap as possible, setting the standard rate low, but i want to ship my higher value items with trackng and insurance only, i can currently specify this in the item description, but cannot evidently disable or specify shipping rates for such items in the proposed shipping settings automation. What would the work around be for this? Cancel the order, relist the item, contact the buyer and inform them to select the correct shipping rate from the dropdown list. And how exactly would that improve the transaction not to mention the buyer/seller relations? A message to the devs, please step away from your IDE on this, just because it can be done does not mean it should be done. And to the committee, listen to your clients on this, cos lets face it, in terms of revenue that is what the sellers are.

  • Oct 7,2020 at 04:15

    Bloody hell. WTF is wrong with you guys at Discogs. I tried to figure out how this all works, but it is impossible. It used to be so simple and satisfying, I used to be a happy customer. Now my first sale under the new policy has even COST me money, because your standard setting for shipment costs top Germany does not compute with the real costs. And I don’t know how to revert to the old situation.
    Discogs for me is just a hobby. Discogs, would you please listen to your users and come to your senses? Otherwise it’s bye bye from a lot of us, and you will lose support from a large community.

  • Oct 5,2020 at 14:08

    Regarding DiscPal invoice payments and the proposed withholding of payment.

    The official line is:

    Unpaid invoices include all orders received 15+ days prior to your billing date that have not been cancelled, merged, or paid for on a prior invoice.
    Please note that if payment is not made by the due date listed, your account will be disabled until payment is made.

    So, if you don’t pay – your account is disabled, not just your for sale items ‘unlisted’ or made ‘unavailable’.

    Thoughts?

  • Oct 5,2020 at 14:06

    This is so stupid that I can´t believe it´s true. I love Discogs, both for buying, selling and adding my records to my collection, but after this, I think I´ll leave Discogs for good. I definitely won´t fill out their shipping policy anyway.

  • Oct 5,2020 at 09:02

    The situation regarding shipping policies is utterly ridiculous. If it persists, I will simply revert to selling elsewhere, as I have done in the past.

  • Oct 5,2020 at 03:06

    I have never had a problem in the past with any of my sales. I will leave everything as it is. If the new policy stops me selling then its bye bye DISCOGS.

  • Oct 2,2020 at 15:10

    To: “iwc62”: buyers cannot see shipping rates always after this changes, they removed “shellac” format, so talk about it’s for the buyers good is not correct. Read extension article: they say they had amazing feedback to new policies! – after not one positive comment here. This kind of people we r dealing with. It feels like having “The Content Censor at Discogs!” Don’t cancel your shops, just don’t set up “All formats” by 1st Nov. That’s it, / I still like this community, being part of it, want it back to normal, hopefully they will change mind on idiotic policies.

  • Oct 2,2020 at 08:59

    One month of life for us but after i will cancel my shop. I fuck deeply your new shipping policies. bye bye discogs

  • Oct 2,2020 at 07:56

    I can see where a shipping policy might be a good idea in principle at least. For one, it increases sales and profits for Discogs, and buyers can see the shipping rate before placing an ordering. All well and good if it works for the seller and without problems. Shipping rates have increased exponentially over the last few years and continue to rise, rates changing frequently, once, or twice a year. It is not hard to see this policy will benefit corporations more than sellers, we already get ripped on commission charges, PayPal fees, exchange rates, vat on commissions and sales taxes to certain countries and states. The average seller doesn’t make a great deal out of it at the end of the day, and if the imminent rules come into effect it will impact the seller even more, not to mention Discogs profit margins, with sellers leaving the site altogether. Just like eBay who also engage in legalised extortion with their Global Shipping Policy. If this fails sellers then there is only one option and that is to set up their own website and networking them, this seem the only way sellers and buyers would receive a fairer deal.

  • Oct 2,2020 at 07:37

    BOYCOTT!!!!!!! Ive been selling here for 12 years. As we all know this is BS. There is zero need for any of this. The only way they will listen is if we affect their profits. No sellers no money for Discogs. Zero respect for the sellers.
    GOODBYE DISCOGS. WAS FUN WHILST IT LASTED!

  • Oct 2,2020 at 03:11

    *score (sorry, pressed the wrong button)

  • Oct 2,2020 at 03:06

    OK. I will be with the COMMUNITY. IT’S UP TO YOU, THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER YOU WILL PAY them THE FEE IN OCTOBER OR NOT. THE DEADLINE IS OCTOBER, 20. I just will see your opinions. What do you think, should we pay THEM the fee in October, or not? The scire is 1/1.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 05:54

    As some Discogs users have commented here, Is this even legal? Obviously the new Automated Shipping Calculator is not designed to work.It is not meant to be functional, even a child can see that.It has clearly been created with the sole purpose of adding to the amount of canceled transactions. When the seller refunds the money to the buyer, paypal keeps the fee. Im calling out to International Law experts to study this forced new automated shipping calculator and its legality, if we can get together enough people we can sue Discogs as a group. To me this seems like fraud on behalf of Discogs. If it is a crime, then they need to be sued. If it is legal to do this, the we need to stop selling here. The only rationale I can think of for Discogs to do this is that they have been bought by investors who only want to make a quick profit and the original creators of Discogs have sold their shares and given up the control of the site to stock market speculators, who do not understand the nature of record collecting. As many have said it was good while it lasted. Unless Discogs makes a U-turn, its over for them.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 02:47

    We don’t need protest song lyrics nor so-called “revealers” with a fake account (no seller rate, no buyer rate, no contribution…), we just need 2 things :

    1) If we don’t agree with the ASP thing, better to STAY at Discogs, but NOT setting the shipping policies, so as the buyers may see the unavailable items from november 1st.

    2) And of course we MUST pay the fees of past orders, so as not to be banned from the marketplace !

    It’s just common sense, especially for non-professional sellers who don’t need the marketplace to earn their living.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 02:32

    Stop this madness now. No one wants this. In Sweden, the shipping prices get changed every year.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 02:28

    Genuinely whoever has advised you on this policy change has advised you badly. Discogs is a community it’s our records, it’s our contributions to the body of knowledge and our support of Discogs that has got it where is. By dictating draconic and unrealistic rules you do nothing but alienate your community. The day when this new shipping policy is live I fully expect the volumes of available vinyl on discogs to drop substantially.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 01:48

    …And what else? I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO STOP PAY them THE FEES IN OCTOBER. THEY need to understand that WE, THE COMMUNITY, WILL NEVER AGREE TO their NEW RULES FOR US.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:20

    OK. The lyrics belong to the German group Risk. It’s ‘Strike’ from the album p 1988, ‘The Daily Horror News’.

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:14

    Or better /???… From bottom to the top.)))

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:13

    …So sorry for the intruding with my broken English… This lyrics must be read vice versa. /)))

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:10

    They can’t take our pride
    They can’t take our hate
    Our patience is just running out
    The young and the old
    Will stand in the cold
    If we don’t stand up for our rights

    Strike – We’re strong together
    We’ve been on strike for something better

    Strike, strike, strike
    Stand on your right

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:07

    Strike – We’re strong together
    We’ve been on strike for something better

    Strike, strike, strike
    Stand on your right

    Most of us work hard, just for a living
    But now there is mass unemployment
    They shut down the mines
    They cut off the lines
    And wonder ’bout hate they create

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:04

    Strike – We’re strong together
    We’ve been on strike for something better

    Social disease, crime’s on the increase
    It might be so tough – oh so tough
    You gotta have a chance
    Agree with out plans
    Hit the road to show what the score is
    Now the time is right
    Raise your hands to fight
    Get up and march along
    Come on to my side
    Let us break their might
    Demand what’s yours, don’t be shy

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:03

    Friday, Saturday, Sunday
    Working hard all day
    Many years of suffer went by
    Come on to my side
    Let us break their might
    Demand what’s yours, don’t be shy

  • Oct 1,2020 at 00:02

    Trouble all around us
    To the right and to the left
    Union wants to help – what a mess
    Now the time is right
    Raise your hands to fight
    Get up and march along

  • Sep 30,2020 at 23:49

    Come on guys, you need to trust Discogs! Content Editor joined Discogs 4 months ago, 0-zero points as contributor, 0-zero as seller, 0-zero pictures added, but 1 feedback for buy. So must know better about shipping policies and reality!

  • Sep 30,2020 at 20:09

    quick, I need to sell everything I have left in October……. 1 more month before it all goes tits up. :-)

  • Sep 30,2020 at 15:26

    I guess the simple answer is if everyone refuses or cannot update their shipping policies then suddenly Discogs will cease to exist because without us YOU DISCOGS ARE NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

  • Sep 30,2020 at 14:49

    a firework of imcompetence in every way and at least an illegal incapacitation of adult buyers & sellers. and at least against the constitution!
    it remains me on drug dealers on the street – in the beginning you get it for free or less money – later, when you depending on this, the rules & taxes & prices will be changed up to confuse rules you have to accept…..
    brave “new” world & shame on you

    the important question at least: why you fucking up a system which works fine over a decade of years with unreal & incompetent templates, which does not
    cover the reality ?Different countries – different tariffs, a handful of carriers with different tariffs, no possibillity for cheaper rates or discounts if you sell a bunch of items, a variation of parcel or letter, different sizes – and you think you can do this with one click or more?
    and at least a good meaning advice: don´t take drugs while working !

  • Sep 30,2020 at 14:10

    DISCOGS: “We have had amazing feedback from the community….”

    COMICAL ALI: “The infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad.”

  • Sep 30,2020 at 07:29

    These new shipping policies left me confused. In my country, the postal system does not have a fixed price or approximate shipping costs. I am always responsible for manually calculating shipping costs based on the postal code, mainly based on the final location. With the new shipping policy and the obligation to set a price for shipping, you have to put a value that will not be the real value for the buyer. That in my view was a mess.

  • Sep 30,2020 at 07:14

    To every seller who had already given in to the blackmailing of DiscPal and has meanwhile reluctantly set up some corrupt automated shipping policies : WAKE UP AND CONSIDER TO DELETE THE AUTOMATED SHIPPING POLICIES IMMEDIATELY!

    THEY RIP-OFF YOUR MONEY AND ARE ONLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF DISCPAL. MOREOVER, AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAMPER AND COMPLICATE EVERY SELLING AND BUYING EXPERIENCE IN THE MARKETPLACE.

    EVERYBODY JOIN THE NOVEMBER PROTEST AGAINST THE SELL-OUT OF DISCOGS TO THE MERCILESS SHARK PAYPAL BY REFUSING TO SET UP AUTOMATED SHIPPING POLICIES!

    EVERYONE CAN JOIN IN SILENTLY BY NOT SETTING UP AND/OR DELETING THE ALREADY RELUCTANTLY SET UP AUTOMATED SHIPPING POLICIES. EVERY SELLER WHO IS DEPENDENT ON HIS INCOME AND FEARS THE PUNISHING FIST OF THE NEW AUTHRITARIAN DISCPAL IF HE EXPRESSES HIS PROTEST/STRIKE PUBLICLY IS INVITED TO JOIN IN SILENTLY.

    EVERYONE STRUGGLE AND FIGHT BACK AGAINST YOUR FORCED ROLL-OUT TO PAYPAL! WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT AND WE DEMAND TO REMAIN FREE HUMAN BEINGS!

  • Sep 30,2020 at 06:53

    Well, I think the only reason for replacing the new ASP to November is that THEY want to collect the Discogs fees from us for September. But November will come soon, and the fees for October should be collected too…

  • Sep 30,2020 at 06:06

    I just can’t understand why Discogs can’t give an option to choose between the old and the new shipping policy. As a small seller I prefer to send manually invoice to every of my buyer which they will receive within 24 hours after their orders placed. Automatic Shipping Policy must be the only benefit to big sellers, shops but definiately not for small private sellers(there are a lots). Just makes me disappointed what is happening now…

  • Sep 30,2020 at 04:22

    Did everyone already read the newest Discogs blog statement wherein they postpone the requirement of the automated shipping policys to November 1st?

    Very interesting to read what they say.

    They lie by saying: „The response has been incredible…“ a bad joke, haha

    furthermore they say: „We have had amazing feedback from the community and greatly appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us.“ Another bad joke. None of our feedback was really answered and honoured. Thousands and thousands of complaints and questions of upset and disgusted sellers as well as buyers remain unanswered.

    And worst of all and CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR EVERYONE WHO DOUBTED MY WORDS once I revealed that the compulsory implementation of the automated shipping editor is only the pretext and necessary tool in order to force everyone into Paypal and MAKE PAYPAL THE EXCLUSIVE AND ONE AND ONLY ALLOWED PAYMENT OPTION IN THE DISCOGS MARKETPLACE read what Discogs writes in the newest blog:

    „While our focus has been on Shipping Policies, we continue to work on integrating PayPal Commerce as our primary payment platform. Please know we will not require sellers to move to the new PayPal platform in 2020 as originally announced. We will share more details soon and will be here to help you through this change as well.“

    So DiscPal has finally again publicly announced that they are going to become 100% DiscPal very soon. They announced that they will not force sellers into their PayPal only monopolist giant corporation machine in 2020. oh what mercy you show for us! Oh thank you, thank you, thank you, mighty and merciful DiscPal! SO YOU POSTPONE IT TO EARLY 2021 TO FORCE EACH AND EVERYONE IN THE DISCOGS MARKETPLACE INTO THE OPPRESSIVE AND RIP-OFF PAYPAL MACHINE. BIG THANKS FOR NOTHING @ SELL-OUT DISCPAL!!!

    biggest middlefinger you can imagine for this FUKKIN SELL-OUT!

    OCTOBER PROTEST AGAINST MAKING THE ASP COMPULSORY HAS THEREFOE BEEN EXTENDED/POSTPONED TO NOVEMBER. NOW ITS THE NOVEMBER PROTEST!!!

    EVERY SELER WITH SELF-RESPECT WHO REFUSES TO BE MADE A DISCPAL SLAVE BOYCOTT SETTING UP ANY ASP!!!

    AND VOICE YOUR ANGER AND PROTEST AGAINST THE SELL-OUT OF DISCOGS TO PAYPAL!!!!

  • Sep 30,2020 at 02:39

    Delete my comment, would you? Can’t accept the truth about yourselves? You’re just a bunch of international barrow boys with delusions of grandeur. And if you implement this absurdity w.e.f. 1st October, you won’t be receiving payment for any fees I currently owe.

  • Sep 30,2020 at 01:32

    I am astounded by the lack of response from Discogs reps on these replies. They have their eyes wide open, running full speed to the edge of a 200 meter cliff. They can still stop, but think running from the cliff is their only option…? An option for a solution to what problem?

  • Sep 29,2020 at 21:19

    I’m done with Discogs too. The world market can be reached easier elsewhere.

  • Sep 29,2020 at 16:31

    Please tell me how you set up a shipping policy to cover all possible orders when different formats require different shipping rates?

    This makes zero sense. If you have multiple shipping policies for a region that covers all formats shouldn’t that be considered complete? Am I missing something here?

  • Sep 29,2020 at 14:51

    This looks just like another of the unrealistic guidelines/rules with which Discogs messed up the database (I’ll just mention excluding bootlegs, including perfectly legit releases marked as bootlegs for mysterious reasons).
    It MIGHT be that a professional seller will be able to follow the new shipping guidelines; certainly not somebody putting for sale a few records from his collection and finding out, every time of the rare occasion he goes to the post office, that the rates have been changed – and I understand you’re now even asking to state rates for shipping unlimited amounts of items? Try asking any courier a rate for an unlimited weight…

  • Sep 29,2020 at 14:40

    The mandatory shipping policies are nothing but a slap in the face of all non-commercial sellers who keep the marketplace alive and interesting. It is impossible to cover all types of shipping with this editor (whose usability by he way is a pain) and set up correct policies. It seems you have no idea of the shipping requirements in all countries people ship from. For example, why am I forced to have a shipping policy for “all formats” when every format in Germany has different shipping costs? And I can’t combine quantity and weight which is essential. This has nothing to do with reality. I was happy with the Discogs marketplace for years (and my buyers too), but now the risk of losing money because of your complicated obstacle is way too high. It’s a shame.

  • Sep 29,2020 at 13:52

    I think this change is easier to implement for some sellers than others and I don’t think Discogs has listened enough to a lot of the long time sellers and vital contributors in this thread about the difficulties they face with this mandatory change.
    For me, I mostly ship with UPS and occasionally Purolator; the dimension difference between a 7″ and 12″ record is no different for me, the shipping rate difference is determined mostly by weight alone, so for me, this shipping policy has been rather easy to implement because my inventory is small compared with most, so I have been able to weigh out all my inventory and appropriately list the weight of everything. I’m fortunate that the cost at the next weight level of each weight tier is relatively small and I don’t need to fuss on the dimensions of a box, so even on the occasion I go over the weight I was expecting, the loss is not significant and would normally only happen with a larger order.
    But I realize that my circumstance is in the minority. The problem for most sellers is that it isn’t possible to individually weigh all inventory or rely on the discogs weight system, which frequently under weighs the actual weight of vinyl releases. There also can be a massive jump in shipping prices between different weight tiers, especially when you need to use the postal service and go a few grams over.
    I’ve already noticed sellers on this marketplace selling items with shipping rates that appear to be by error and undercut their actual cost to ship. As a frequent buyer on the marketplace, I can often tell when a shipping rate does not appear right. I anticipate there will be several sellers that will initially be forced to pay a lot extra to ship an order because of relying on the discogs weight system or some other means to craft their shipping policy and will be forced to increase shipping rates above cost to protect themselves, which in the end, impacts the buyers that discogs is trying to help.

  • Sep 29,2020 at 13:48

    big time…I’m too stupid for this…that get’s on my nerves really hard and I’m loosing all the good vibes I had before on this marketplace…I’leaving. Call it boycott, I think it is. Anyway, thanks for the time so far at Discogs, I had a blast so far, some nice conversations and stuff, but this is….no fun at all!

  • Sep 29,2020 at 13:33

    this is some grade a bs. i finally relented today and tried to set up shipping policies. it’s just not plausible to cover all possible scenarios. why make this mandatory?

    this change was not made in the best interest of the community; i will likely unlist my inventory.

  • Sep 29,2020 at 12:52

    Big business between Discogs and Ebay ? . . .

  • Sep 29,2020 at 08:04

    Hello?

  • Sep 29,2020 at 08:02

    How come when I leave a negative comment it gets automatically deleted?

  • Sep 29,2020 at 08:00

    Discogs is dead. What a waste of time! RIP Discogs

  • Sep 29,2020 at 07:41

    Spent the last irritating 5 hours updating the new shipping policy and in so doing eliminating many potential buyers from the community and in no way improving things. Now it states that it costs £3.10 to send a tape UK to UK, but I want to charge £0.88 (because that’s how much it costs). If I change the price to £0.88, then all my LPs appear as £0.88 postage. What the hell is going on? I live in Scotland and the sun has been out ALL day and I have been stuck inside with this mindless task which has sucked all the good from my soul and added to my already deficient Vitamin D deficiency.

  • Sep 29,2020 at 06:38

    The only person from Staff who replied to this comments by name was “nraney” 6th comment from bottom in article: “An Overviev of Improvements to the Shipping Policies Editor”.
    I clicked in her nickname, to see her account…”lovely lady”, she present herself as : “I am the Content Editor at Discogs!”- she put exclamation mark- for real! She joined Discogs in May 2020, she has 0 point as contributor, 1 feedback for buy, she’s not a seller. When someone commented that Discogs posted again article “An Overview…” without 300 negative comments , she replied… you better read yourself, if you can understand logic behind…

  • Sep 29,2020 at 04:22

    Hahahahaha, it’s easier to become a NASA engineer, than to successfully complete the new shipping policies form…If you’re trying to lower your revenue, well done
    Discogs…you’ve nailed it!!!There’s a saying in Portugal that goes:”Quem tudo quer, tudo perde” (He who wants everything, everything loses)

  • Sep 29,2020 at 00:50

    This is just insane. Who do you think you are, Amazon? It wasn’t broke, but by attempting to fix it, you’re pissing off 90% of your vendors. Nobody needs this draconian bullshit, so get over yourselves, and face the fact that you’re just a very expensive middleman – and without your vendors, you are NOTHING.

  • Sep 28,2020 at 15:39

    Thirteen years on Discogs, and in two days from now surely be out of marketplace, Automatic Shipping Policies doesn’t work at all, they are not reliable.
    Each order was “tailor made”, depending on destination, item value, item specificity (light to heavy pressing, light to heavy cardboard, jewelbox or digifile…) and the buyer choice of shipping option (standard, registered, tracked, tracked & signed, sometimes delivered via other services than Postal services), and the buyer choice of payment (bank transfer, cash, online payment Paypal is not alone in this world…), sometimes multiple orders also allow the seller to decrease shipping or offer it. All this is the singularity of Discogs experience before that new 1st october policy, it was different from what we are forced to suffer each day on all the gafam platforms (inhumanity, automatization…). Discogs was a cooperative wonderful project of musical database where we were sharing information, knowledge and passion for musical art. That new economical or political choice seems to share nothing with what Discogs is or maybe “was”. Very sorry to think like that but I couldn’t imagine how to keep on contributing or selling on it. It’s makes me really sad.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 14:58

    https://blog.discogs.com/en/updating-the-discogs-marketplace-for-the-2020s/

    “Many music sellers and buyers rely on us — not only for the love of music but also their livelihood — so we’re stepping up our commitment to our marketplace to ensure a more secure and intuitive way to buy and sell music online.”

    “This direction comes as a result of countless conversations with buyers and sellers on how they want to shop and sell on Discogs.”

    Judging by the glut of bemused and frustrated comments on the blogs and forum it appears the “countless conversation” spin is wholly implausible. Also, the way the editor has been implemented and rolled out is the absolutely least intuitive and workable it could ever be.

    “Happy collecting” everyone after September 30th – 3 days from now.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 11:11

    Once upon a time discogs fees were 6%, enough to make a lot of money without doing almost nothing, then discogs tried to go up 10% fees but they went back to 8% plus VAT like it was a great favour to sellers, in the meanwhile nothing was done to seriously update their site or to offer some serious new improvement apart some articles showing biggest sales on which they made big money, in the meanwhile paypal raised his steal from our transactions, in the meanwhile US added taxes on which we must pay paypal fees, in the meanwhile exchange rates have become more expensive, in the meanwhile…. what do you want more from us, our blood?

  • Sep 27,2020 at 10:27

    I can’t understand if this is a legal requirement or a discogs’ bad idea, sometimes shipping cost can vary for a few grams of difference, before sending shipping cost i need to verify weight for every item or for the sum of the items, now to set this new request i should take the weight for about 6000 items and predict total weight with the risk of setting an higher price or a lower than due, losing opportunity to sell or losing money if weight goes over my limits imposed by postal service, can you imagine asking the difference to the buyer after he paid? negative feedback guaranteed, let us choose how to handle with buyers, thanks.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 09:10

    My comment was deleted. I pointed out that a global pandemic is a bad time for automated shipping policies.
    Furthermore I called the decision by the discogs management confusing and out of touch with reality.
    Deleting makes me really feel like a part of the community! I guess professional programmers and mangers have feelings too, sorry for offending you. However, will not update shipping policy but what do you care? I hardly sell a CD a month.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 07:33

    I’m new to selling here, and have not had one issue with shipping, never gave it a second thought. This new ‘policy’ is rife with thoughts, none of them good. I’m sure that this new policy has nothing to do with making anything easier for the buyer or seller. As my departed father used to say: ‘Everything gets worse.’ Meaning, leave it to whomever to screw up what was previously good.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 06:11

    Ayant utilisé le calculateur automatique des frais de port depuis plusieurs années, je peux garantir que cela ne diminue en aucun cas le nombre de commandes non payées, cela n’augmente aucunement non plus le nombre de commandes passées, cela n’empêche pas non plus certains acheteurs de passer commande, de payer et d’ensuite demander l’annulation de cette commande (cela a plutôt tendance à même augmenter ce type d’annulation)et cerise sur le gâteau cela ne diminue pas non plus le nombre de question provenant d’acheteurs potentiels sur les frais de port.
    Autre conséquence de l’utilisation du calculateur automatique, les interactions et communications entre marchands et acheteurs sont gravement impactées au point de se résumer à néant.

    Pour résumé, il n’y a donc aucun intérêt financier, ni de gain de temps pour les marchands et acheteurs à utiliser le calculateur automatique. Il y a par contre de gros intérêts financiers pour Discogs et Paypal à obliger les marchands d’utiliser ce système, plus d’impayés pour Discogs et plus de rentrées financières pour Paypal via la suggestion de payement automatique via Paypal.

    De plus le nouveau calculateur automatique de frais de port, ne permet pas la combinaison poids/format du colis/valeur des articles, ce qui risque de généré tout un tas d’arnaques possibles, problèmes d’assurance, …
    Autre problème, les tarifs des transporteurs changent en permanence et à des dates différentes, il faut donc garder le tout à jour en permanence, ce qui implique du travail régulier et non rémunérer sous peine de pertes financières.
    Pour exemple la poste française peut du jour au lendemain et sans avertissement aucun supprimer les envois vers certaines destination suite aux conditions sanitaires actuelles (COVID19).

    Suite à tous les problèmes et fausses vérités énoncées plus haut, je n’ai pas réglé ma facture de septembre et ne réglerai probablement pas celle d’octobre non plus. Mes 18.000 articles resteront dans les étagères jusqu’au moment où Discogs n’obligera plus les marchands utiliser le calculateur automatique de frais de port.

    Having used the automatic shipping cost calculator for several years, I can guarantee that this does not in any way decrease the number of unpaid orders, nor does it increase the number of orders placed, nor does it prevent some buyers place an order, pay and then request the cancellation of that order (it tends to even increase this type of cancellation) and the icing on the cake does not decrease the number of questions either from potential buyers on the shipping costs.
    Another consequence of the use of the automatic calculator, the interactions and communications between merchants and buyers are seriously impacted to the point of being reduced to nothing.

    To summarize, there is therefore no financial interest, nor time saving for merchants and buyers to use the automatic calculator. There are on the other hand big financial interests for Discogs and Paypal to oblige the merchants to use this system, no more bad debts for Discogs and more financial receipts for Paypal via the suggestion of automatic payment via Paypal.

    In addition, the new automatic postage calculator does not allow the combination of weight / format of the package / value of the items, which risks generating a whole bunch of possible scams, insurance problems, etc.
    Another problem, the prices of carriers change constantly and on different dates, it is therefore necessary to keep everything constantly up to date, which implies regular work and unpaid under penalty of financial loss.
    For example, the French post office can delete shipments to certain destinations overnight and without warning due to current health conditions (COVID19).

    Due to all the problems and false truths set out above, I haven’t paid my September bill and probably won’t pay the October bill either. My 18,000 items will remain on the shelves until Discogs no longer requires merchants to use the automatic postage calculator.

  • Sep 27,2020 at 03:43

    Discogs, the main problem is the idea of obligating the worst case / flat rate scenario.

    • When I enter the real insurance value of the largest parcel, it is said “This policy is incomplete”.
    • The other big problem is that individual rules (shipping products) cannot have a validity area. Each individual shipping method must still be openly scalable at the top at Discogs. In service reality each shipping product has a upper limit.

    No parcel service offers a flat rate. Each parcel tariff offered is determined by 3 parameters: size, weight, insurance value. At Discogs you have to choose, there are not all 3 parameters in one rule allowed.

    Solution
    Now you have to enter shipping rules that 1) meet Discog’s regulations in order to be allowed to sell, 2) cause no financial damage, 3) confuse the buyer.

    Other points of criticism.
    • You cannot test your shipping rules to check your entries.
    • Discogs does not protect its sellers from PayPal. If something goes wrong you are at the mercy of PayPal (fees for refund).

  • Sep 27,2020 at 03:20

    just to try it, i set uk shipping for 1 to 7 large records at £3.50. just got an order for 2 x lps, 3 x 12″, 1 X 10″ and 1 X 7″, 7 items in all and the asp charged the buyer £9 for shipping

  • Sep 27,2020 at 02:23

    I tried setting it up by weight then per item…
    I checked ordering from my shop from other country using VPN connection … It just does not work…

  • Sep 27,2020 at 01:11

    Non ha senso… Discogs si giustifica dicendo che così ci saranno meno ordini cancellati, ma non è vero.
    Avendo 6000 articoli che si spostano tra “fiere del disco” e “mercatini” può succedere di tutto: che viene rubato, che viene messo fuori posto e non si trova più, che si sia rovinato. Trovavo perfetto avere l’ordine, verificarne la disponibilità e le condizioni ed infine impostare il prezzo di spedizione. In questo modo invece sarà un continuo cancellare e rimborsare.
    Google Traslate:
    It doesn’t make sense … Discogs justifies itself by saying there will be fewer canceled orders, but that’s not true.
    Having 6000 articles moving between “disc fairs” and “markets”, anything can happen: that it is stolen, that it is misplaced and can no longer be found, that it is ruined. I found it perfect to have the order, check availability and conditions and finally set the shipping price. In this way instead it will be a continuous cancel and refund.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 20:20

    Hey
    Simple solution
    Retain all your sensible policies and add one for all formats any quantity $100.000 Flat Rate
    Done

  • Sep 26,2020 at 16:49

    Further to my email posted below, i have sent the following to Russ who replied to me, but as yet no reply.
    Russ can you please tell me how i set up the following
    2 orders the same in weight and number where one is for £10 and the other is £100 (dearer shipping due to value)
    How to set up standard shipping by weight or number when records are not standard weight and the weights are wrong in discogs
    what about 2cd’s which go as a large letter and a double cd which goes as a small parcel
    From UK there are 6 weight variations, so 243 countries that is around 1,500 shipping prices for each category (large vinyl, small vinyl etc) all of which i would have to look up before setting up
    Prices are changing all the time, so i would have to regularly check 6,000 prices
    No facility to set up for both standard and tracked shipping, some buyers you might only decide to send tracked only after order is placed because of indifferent feedback or value of order
    How can you sent up one shipping policy for every eventuality?
    I can send 9 x 12″ singles as under 2kg, but 6 lp’s might be over 2kg, so i would have to set the 2kg weight at 5 items, so buyers and sellers would both lose out, as buyers do optimise the weight, so now someone who buys 12″ singles can only buy 5 to make the most of the parcel weight, whereas before they could buy 9. I cannot set shipping by weight as the weights are not correct on discogs listings, to get would have to weigh 14,000 items

  • Sep 26,2020 at 15:59

    Unsurprisingly, of course, as mentioned by hundreds of sellers and buyers before, the required & poorly-developped new shipping policies don’t work. Naively, I contacted “support”. After NINE DAYS, discogs provided a formula “reply” that failed to contain ANY information on solving my problem, instead exposing just another level of utter disregard for those that have been building their business over a considerable number of years…

    This amateur move may produce short-term revenues for their corporation, but it will bounce back in medium & long run – and those responsible will have their bonusses on their accounts anyway, and they certainly couldn’t care less…

    Pure mediocrity: Just another example of sheepish neo-liberals blowing a formerly smart & proven online success story…

  • Sep 26,2020 at 11:13

    Are they still deleting many of the negatives from here?
    I’m banned from the forums otherwise I’d be all over them – thanks discogs.
    For a bunch of lefties from Portland they certainly love dictatorial autocratic fascism.
    Everyone needs to not back down and hit them financially so that they see sense and do what everyone bar one person wants them to do.
    What about countries that paypal is banned in?
    They are excluded from buying here, that’s a disgrace.
    Great move discogs.
    Absolute fucking lunacy, imposing this on us is one thing, implementing an interface that only a fucking retard could have designed, alienating all of your sellers is one hell of a fuckwitted move that I really hope backfired on you spectacularly.
    It isn’t broken, don’t ‘fix’ it.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 09:22

    If it’s even legal to force us to sell unlimited number of items, when we cannot predict real posting costs, or if we can post some kind of items in the same parcel…? Buyers force to overpayments or sellers to be underpaid, after changes I had invoice sent to customer in Austria with posting price £0.30 for 7 singles records…

  • Sep 26,2020 at 08:28

    You know – after reading all the other comments here, I am in
    Reverting my shipping policies to what worked. If I am shut down in October I will let my account lapse unpaid until it makes sense again.
    And the 5k unsold listings may just be chalked off as a sunk cost.
    Already I see one of the calculations for a 15 disc set incorrectly reflects “No extra shipping”
    Bad policy poorly executed

  • Sep 26,2020 at 08:17

    Saying nothing that has not been said before but
    THIS IS FRIGGING TERRIBLE
    I am forced to calculate and guarentee shipping for quantities which I have noe experience with and no anticipated sales. I have over 750 100% positive feedback sales.
    I am not a store. Just an individual who has spent over a year listing my collection for liquidation, and to date have been very happy with the results, th money I have recouped and the 99.9% wonderfull interactions with fellow colectors.
    ALL OF THAT CHANGED WITH THIS MINDLESS POLICY.
    After hours of tweaking I still do not have a compliant policy I am comfortable with.
    I have had no issues selling with my current policy.
    I should not be required to list a policy for all quantities of all formats.
    JUST STUPID.
    DISCOGS, please consider the possibility that I really don’t want to ship 150 CDs if someone orders them. At any cost.
    I guess I could just flat rate anything over a dozen at $10,000. That would make everyone happy.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 07:57

    Tried to get the shipping policies sorted out. To much stuff that can go wrong. The prices for shipping that are now listed with every item in my store are for worldwide shipping of large vinyl items. What happened to all the other adjustments that I’ve made? Another unhappy discogs user added to the list.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 07:23

    After 11 good years with Discogs, I’m finally throwing in the towel after seeing this terrible new shipping atrocity. Bye Discogs.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 05:37

    Yeah, I think I’m going back to ebay for selling. Nice move Discogs.

  • Sep 26,2020 at 03:33

    Having just managed to set up a policy of sorts though nowhere near as good or accurate as the policy I have had in place for many years, I have just received an order which Discogs has sent an automated invoice on which has completely the wrong price and that wouldn’t even cover the cost of the postage. It’s not even a price that I have entered into any of my policy. Even when you think you have got this thing working to an extent Discogs finds a way to screw it all up for you again. This is getting way beyond a joke now.

  • Sep 25,2020 at 14:18

    To: “footprint62”
    Reply is probably from author of this text above, have you read, seen “examples”?
    21 items and up for 20 euro !!! shocking!
    To send around 6 LP’s from UK to Europe costs £15.35, to USA £33.21
    Reply shows they will go with this nonsense anyway.

  • Sep 25,2020 at 13:18

    my email to discogs and the reply i got:
    The new shipping policy is a disaster, there are too many variations for it to work properly, i do not know if you have read the many scathing blogs on this policy from both buyers and sellers, i doubt it as it seems you are ignoring all the users who have built up discogs over the years, I was in the process of expanding my office so i could double the amount of records i list on discogs, at the moment i have paid over $30,000 in fees, and i currently sell around $10,000 a month, but from the 1st October i will be suspending my listings. Like all the other users who have voiced complaints over the new system, i expect you will just ignore my comments as you have not replied to a previous email i sent. Hopefully many sellers will do the same as the only way you will come to reason is through your profits
    The Reply :
    Sorry that you feel that way, if your opinion changes, please get in touch and I’ll help you get set up

  • Sep 25,2020 at 11:46

    My last two purchases were from E-bay and it’s not even Oct. 1st yet.

  • Sep 25,2020 at 06:39

    Also congratulations on the timing of this imposed change and all the lost transactions…

  • Sep 25,2020 at 06:37

    This shipping policy is incomplete, it is missing one shipping method that covers:
    All Order sizes – The final rate range must end with “and up” to handle any number of items or weights.
    All Order values – The value in the “Order Subtotal must be at least/under” field should be 0.

    So if I’m selling something where the insurance covers up to a value of £20 it can’t be ‘at least/under’ £20 it has to be £0 (Makes no sense) and then you set a price for an infinite amount of weight (and up) at the end as if the price won’t change if its 10kg or 1000kg…

  • Sep 24,2020 at 23:31

    …Wow, the Community! THEY don’t give us anymore the right to reply in THEIR newest topics about the ASP coming. LOGICALLY IT MEANS THEY KNOW WHAT WE THINK, AND IGNORE OUR NEGATIVE REACTION.

  • Sep 24,2020 at 15:36

    @Vertigo_Swirl
    I bet their auto payment policies take the money from your PayPal account anyway.
    DiscPal and PayPal – gouging the world one customer at a time!

  • Sep 24,2020 at 11:08

    Yesterday, tentatively ,I decided to test the water with setting up Shipping policies for Europe. I have for a number of years had the shipping already set up (with no problems)….but the new policy requires an “ALL FORMATS” entry which I previously didn’t have…….so I read and reread all the guidance, watched the videos and even though they are as “clear as mud” took the plunge.
    Today I got an order from Italy for 6 LPs, with the postage charged at LESS than I’d charge for one……the figure added has no relation to anything I’ve entered in the Policies!!!……so now (if I honour the order) I am £20+ out of pocket!!!
    WILL SOMEONE IN DISCOGS PLEASE GET A GRIP AND SORT THIS OUT!

    1. The guidance needs to be written by someone who speaks clear English and understands the nature of what people are selling and the various Postal/Courier set ups in each Country ( in the UK it’s about size as well as weight)
    2. Sort out the software system you’ve created, as it is as flawed (if not more so) than the disaster called NEAR MINT you launched last year (which also cost me money due to it’s flaws)
    3. POSTPONE THE LAUNCH on 1st OCT, as even the most cursory glance of Forums will show that a very large proportion of your Sellers…..or should I say CUSTOMERS are very frustrated and getting angry with this and your lack of response and action.

    And if you chose to ignore it

    4. Accept the you will go the way of GEMM………..OUT OF BUSINESS!
    Record Dealers are very loyal bunch….but only until you push them too far………then they migrate elsewhere and take the buyers with them…….ask GEMM, EBAY, AMAZON Marketplace, NETSOUNDS etc…….and where as AMAZON and EBAY have a multitude of sellers who sell other stuff….YOU DON’T……..WE GO….YOU’RE OUT OF BUSINESS OVERNIGHT
    Bookogs, Filmogs and Posterogs all failed………DO YOU WANT DISCOGS TO ALSO COLLAPSE?

    Sack your programmers (who clearly aren’t up to the job)
    CANCEL the 1st October launch and seriously think about your relationship with the “Snake Oil Salesmen” at PayPal, which as it has developed into closer working has no doubt driven this and you thinking you will slip past additional charges at a later date once the system is embedded!!

  • Sep 24,2020 at 10:08

    It seems like a bunch of people don’t understand that you can adjust your shipping rates for weight. If you mess up, you can always adjust your rate for your next sell and take the loss or you can ask the customer for the additional amount.

    Here are my rates for local USA media mail ALL FORMATS:
    Set shipping price by: weight
    1 to 170 grams $5.50
    171 to 283 grams $6.00
    284 to 481 grams $7.00
    482 to 907 grams $8.00
    then 908 and up grams $12.00 Flat rate

    If I need more from a customer I just inquire and invoice them through PayPal and have had no issues.

    Happy selling!

  • Sep 24,2020 at 08:42

    I find it interesting that in 2 articles above this one discogs comment this
    “That being said, we would like to extend a massive THANK YOU to all of our contributors over the years. The Database would be absolutely nothing without your diligent work and relentless digging over the past 20 years.”
    Yet they completely ignore all the voices of users, over the new shipping policy. Any response Discogs?

  • Sep 24,2020 at 05:47

    Anybody can list for free 1000 items on eBay. No shop needed.
    If you keep the same items on eBay and Discogs , you will only sell 10% on Discogs of what you will sell at eBay.
    It’s down to 18 million potential customers on eBay and fact that people can see how item /record/CD actually looks.
    It’s take more time to list items on eBay as you need to do photos, and you pay fees also on posting costs.
    However as a seller you will have promotions every two weeks or so, so you can list expensive items with max £1 fee.
    If there is any problem you can chat to officials, solve any problem incl. fees or credits for refunds. Discogs-who you can talk to? Anybody replied to this comments?
    Also -rare – and lately only for apps- you will have on eBay discount coupons to buy.
    Still like Discogs as site for collectors but new shipping policies are total shame, “all formats” make no sense, and remember if you set up unlimited “and up” with big numbers PPal will not refund fees from partly refunds. You may lose money – big time.

  • Sep 24,2020 at 04:49

    I’m struggling with meeting the shipping policy requirements here…

    How do we allow for the differences between large letters (7″) & small parcels (12″)? If someone orders a bunch of 7″ over 200g it’s going to be a large letter but if someone orders 1x 12″ LP, it’s a small parcel – there is a difference in postage prices here.

    When it comes to international shipping of orders over 2kg, prices seem to vary a huge amount depending on the individual country it’s being sent to. I’ve not actually had a big order like this before but as I have to meet Discogs requirements of shipping policies ending in ‘and up’, I’ve been getting quotes on Parcelforce – They allow up to 30kg max weight but it seems that the price of sending to one European country can vary hugely to another European country. Does this mean we have to set up shipping policies for every single country? That seems crazy. Are there other companies that have set prices for the World Zones? How does this work?

    The weight of the packing materials used also greatly affects all of this.

    As a UK based seller, creating a shipping policy for sending items inland is easy enough, although not perfect, but is going to be complicated with international shipping. If the ‘and up’ thing was not a requirement, it may not be quite so difficult. At the moment, I can ship abroad but these new changes are going to make this harder & maybe somewhat impossible.

    Mixed feelings on these new changes…

    Any help or advice greatly appreciated. Can anyone recommend any other sites for sellers? Such a shame to see this happen to Discogs.

  • Sep 24,2020 at 04:20

    Yesss! It’s great to see all the beautiful replies! I’m closing down my shop too on Oct 1st. 286 comments is good but it should be like 100.000! Stop the money flow for discpal! If everybody is closing their shops they will have no other choice as to to backpaddle!

  • Sep 24,2020 at 03:21

    Sorry, I have to stop selling here. Simply don’t understand all the new instructions. Goodbye discogs, hello eBay.

  • Sep 24,2020 at 03:01

    – I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you forced us without our agreement.
    – I globally disagree with this new Discogs politics.
    – Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listing unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes.
    – (and for the contributors) I will stop immediately to fill the database with new references.

    I really feel sorry for all of this, the beauty of discogs was that certain freedom in buying / selling.
    This was my favorite place to buy / sell and consult information about the music I love.
    I’m so sad about those discogs decisions

  • Sep 23,2020 at 23:43

    I’m actually tempted to go down the free shipping route, and give partial refunds for multiple orders.

  • Sep 23,2020 at 23:43

    these policies are BS! do you understand discogs???? BS! it’s totally unfair for the buyer. the policies don’t make sense. all you’re doing is driving sales AWAY. so congratulations discogs ! YOU ARE KILLING SALES BIG TIME!!!!!!

  • Sep 23,2020 at 20:10

    Been buying and selling here for a bit and this makes absolutely no sense at all…especially for international shipping. This reminds me of when digg.com got re-worked and lost a massive amount of users that was to never be recovered again. Betting the same thing happens here.

  • Sep 23,2020 at 10:36

    My comment was deleted? Wonderful! Is it because I put some problems on the light? If we can’t have the liberty of expression, don’t authorize comments!

  • Sep 23,2020 at 09:19

    So moronic idea. How system will calculate packaging weight, for 6 shellacs I need 500gr packaging, they removed “shellac” thrashed our settings and the only option is to add ASP for 78’s by weight in “all formats”. But when you do this it will lie about other formats as they need less packaging. By quantity? You can send 6 x 78’s in one parcel but 36 singles in the same weight parcel. In UK typical Royal Mail limit is 2kg parcel. How much I should charge for unlimited weight “and up”- tell me Discogs’ Official S-t-ff

  • Sep 23,2020 at 08:16

    Conversation, set in October 2020:

    Buyer: “Hey! I have ordered 5 LPs from you – paid already via Paypal. When do you ship out? I have to say your shipping costs are pretty high.”

    Seller: “Thanks for your order, we will ship out asap. Yeah, actually shipping costs would have been lower. But the invoicing is beyond our control. Shipping costs are calculated by Discogs own auto-generator, it simply sums up the weight of each item incl. packaging, ignoring the fact that packaging material for 5 LPs in one package is lighter as when shipped in 5 seperate packages. So, actually shipping would have been 20€ instead of 40€. We will refund you the difference minus fees, because Paypal don’t refund fees to us. Are you ok with that?”

    Buyer: “What?! That’s rip-off! Screw you, cancel my order and refund me in full! I will not buy in this place anymore!”

  • Sep 23,2020 at 06:57

    @ WithoutMusic
    I know this whole thing sucks, but I will try to make the best of it.
    My advice, from seller to buyer:
    Get in contact with the seller before placing an order. Let the seller know what you want to buy and ask for the exact shipping costs. After seller’s confirmation place your order to the agreed shipping costs – regardless of the price that may be displayed in your shopping cart. Give the seller time to edit the shipping price and wait for the confirmation. Then pay the invoice and the rest will be as usual.
    I will state in my seller terms (and maybe in the condition comments for each item as well) something like this:
    >> IMPORTANT: Disregard the shipping cost that is displayed below our prices or in your shopping cart – it might be incorrect. Get in contact with us and we will tell you the actual shipping price<<
    I will wait and see what happens in the first weeks of October. Should it turn out into too much hassle and lower sales I will be out of here.

  • Sep 23,2020 at 04:54

    I copy paste what Vertigo_Swirl say in it’s own message. Very good idea.
    Why effectively pay our last monthly fees, if our lists are suspended ?
    “Also, when discogs will suspend my listings Oct 1st, I will be forced to let my discogs invoice from Oct 1st unpaid until my listings are online again.”

  • Sep 23,2020 at 02:55

    I am a BUYER, big time. I spend 100s a month sometimes. As of October 1st….forget it. I am no longer purchasing items on here. I am not going to risk paying 40 euros for shipping that costs 17 euros. And is unfair to the sellers. I have a clothing business that sells over the world. I never know what I’m going to pay to any given county until I go to the post office. For the same item. Also, take two 7 inches, they likely don’t weight the same. I have ones that are 3-4 ounces apart…..let alone heavy LPs, what about 180 lps. It’s too complicated. Leave it as is. This is stupid. And hurts people in countries that aren’t big populated ones

  • Sep 23,2020 at 01:41

    Also, when discogs will suspend my listings Oct 1st, I will be forced to let my discogs invoice from Oct 1st unpaid until my listings are online again.

  • Sep 23,2020 at 01:20

    I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you force us without our agreement.
    Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listings be unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes.
    I will stop immediately to fill the database with new submissions.
    I really hope the majority of us will do the same. Boycott !

  • Sep 22,2020 at 23:16

    Whoever decided on forcing shipping policies on us is from a another planet. We add releases to their database for free. Pay em’ fees for years so in return they ‘blackmail’ us by saying our inventories will no longer be for sale on Discogs unless we comply. That discriminates everybody who doesn’t understand it. I for one cannot stop the incomplete msg on the SP from showing.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 20:05

    I don’t get it! This might work for big records store o maybe not, How the hell I am gonna apply these shipping policy in my country? I live in Panama, things does not work like that here. The National post office offer a services called EMS which is pretty ship compering to DHL Express but you never now exactly how much you are going to be charge till the weight the whole package, for example I always give a free records in orders over 150.00 but now i cant do that with these ridiculous policies i think we need a better site with better rates and flexible shipping rates

  • Sep 22,2020 at 14:26

    I for one will be boycotting discogs from the 1st October, i sent an email to discogs asking them to answer many of the questions that have been posed on here regarding the inadequacies of the new shipping system, but surprise, no reply from them. i have 14,000 items listed, i have payed over $30,000 in fees over the years and my currant sales are around $10,000 a month. From the 1st October i will be suspending my listings.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 14:04

    Third time i try to post it…

    As Discogs guys seems to ignore our discontent, we have to cut massively their revenue in October. The more messy it will be, the more powerful our collective protest will be visible.
    I suggest to all angry sellers (and buyers too), to leave here a statement that mean
    – I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you forced us without our agreement.
    – I globally disagree with this new Discogs politics.
    – Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listing unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes.
    – (and for the contributors) I will stop immediately to fill the database with new references.
    Copy and paste this text or write it in your words, but react by a massive manifestation here and before the deadline of October 1st.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 13:37

    This is literally out of order! I still cannot believe that Discogs is turning into some kind of greedy monopolist like Amazon and eBay partnering with Paypal and pretty much screwing everyone who made it great, i.e. we the people who really love music!
    I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you forced us without our agreement.
    Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listing unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes, (and for the contributors) I will stop immediately to fill the database with new references.
    I really hope the majority of us will do the same. Boycott !!!

  • Sep 22,2020 at 12:09

    As Discogs guys seems to ignore our discontent, we have to cut massively their revenue in October. The more messy it will be, the more powerful our collective protest will be visible.
    I suggest to all angry sellers (and buyers too), to leave here a statement that mean
    – I will not set automatic shipping policies this October 1st, as you forced us without our agreement.
    – I globally disagree with this new Discogs politics.
    – Consider this statement as a strike to attack your profits, by letting my listing unavailable, as long as you will decide to abandon these unacceptable changes.
    – (and for the contributors) I will stop immediately to fill the database with new references.
    Copy and paste this text or write it in your words, but react by a massive manifestation here and before the deadline of October 1st.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 10:10

    @onlyaudiophile:
    Thanks for your answer, that confirms what I thought. So I will have to expect Paypal refunds (at a loss) or further billings. I will have to explain things to confused buyers, ergo there will be more time-consuming discussions. And on top of that I will have to appologize for an order management that I am not responisible for. Plus I will have to expect fewer sales because of scared away buyers. This is ridiculous.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 09:41

    black gold mine: you are going to have bias the weights of the items higher than might be the case, to ensure you don’t end up estimating under 2kg. in other words you will need to create rules such that the shipping prices for those 5LPs is 40 euros, even if in reality you might be able to do it for 18.5 euros. this might scare away the buyer from placing the order. or, they might place the order, pay you the 40 euros shipping cost, then if the package weight comes in less, you can refund them the difference, and paypal will keep its fees on the difference in shipping cost. in other words, it is a ludicruous, punitive shipping system, that either scares off buyers or leaves sellers coving paypal fees for refunds.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 08:59

    I have a question, maybe somebody can help.
    Example:
    We receive an order from Russia: 5 LPs
    Depending on small weight differences per item, total weight incl. packaging could be: 1900 grams = 18,50€ shipping price,
    or it could be: 2100 grams = 40€ shipping price.
    Usually I would get in contact with the buyer to optimize the weight (by removing or adding items) BEFORE sending the invoice.
    But how will Discogs automatization system determine the exact weight incl. packaging and send out automatically an invoice with the correct shipping price?

  • Sep 22,2020 at 07:28

    Just joining in with all the other comments to point out how stupidly complicated and onerous this requirement is. I’ve read through the guidance and looked into the system, but I don’t understand it. I don’t understand how to do it or even what it’s supposed to mean.

    I only sell a few records from my own collection, but over the years I’ve sold to many countries, just one or two to most places. It’s just not worth going through all possible destinations with all the carrier options for all the different formats.

    I will not be completing the new shipping policies requirement so will no longer be able to use Discogs.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 05:50

    let’s just say that a large number of sellers on this platform will be able to bootleg some crude solution to satisfy the shipping terms. it won’t be accurate, it will be frustrating, and it will involve having to set some illogical rules simply to wrangle the discogs shipping tool under some degree of control. but even if that were to happen, there are still many fundamental problems.

    1) small sellers will not do this. if you lose small sellers, you are losing members who might become much larger buyers or contributors over time, and even might become large sellers over time. in other words, you are turning off the lifeblood of nurturing new non-professional sellers to engage with the site.

    2) for the sellers that do sucessfully set up functioning shipping policies, most likely they will limit their shipping to maybe europe/US and a few other countries. for most of the 200 countries in the world, buying from discogs will no longer be an option. that’s not to say sales volumes from most of these countries is high, but if the objective of the platform were to truly build a global music database, you will be cutting off the head of contributions from most countries in the world.

    3) because of the appalling decision to go paypal-exclusive, expensive items (that lead to large fees for discogs), will increasingly move off this platform. because of the high degree of buyer favoritism by paypal, there is significant risk of fraud with very expensive items, and sellers will simply not use paypal for these items. previously discogs could still receive its 8% fee for these sales. in the future, sellers of premium items will either go elsewhere, or negotiate off-platform deals to avoid paypal, which in turn will mean no fees for discogs.

    all discogs had to do here is hire another couple of talented engineers to build out their backend administrative functions, and otherwise leave a beautiful marketplace alone. the growth of this platform has been tremendous operating exactly as it was. 57 MILLION items for sale? really? that is shocking success. clearly it means overall this platform is working really well AS IT IS for an enormous number of global sellers. WHY MESS WITH THAT DEGREE OF SUCCESS? THE HUBRIS IS ASTOUNDING.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 04:27

    This is all such a headache in so many ways.

    Sold 8,000+ on here and now feeling very unsure about the future, what a shame and at this particular time too.

    In 8 years I do not recall EVER having shipping issues or complaints, it just worked. 100% LOVED Discogs up to now.

    Can someone maybe develop a tool to convert a sellers Discogs inventory to one of the other music sales sites, migrate item format, title, grading, price and comments etc. Mind you, the alternatives are not ideal. Go back to having my own website? maybe. I’d REALLY prefer not too though.

    Such minimal support for this change as far as I can see, truly baffling.

    Sat down and decided to try and get my head round all this today, 2 hours on and I give up, wrote this instead, now pondering whether to even attempt this update, had a look on several occasions now and got confused and annoyed. May actually sit back, see what happens post October 1st and no doubt lose some needed income.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 04:03

    The problem does not occur with small quantities. The problem is that one is forced to calculate in advance all conceivable possibilities in a price-optimized manner, even if they never occur. But your software does not offer every conceivable possibility, it is kept quite simple (measured against thousands of salespeople and hundreds of shipping tariffs, diverse music media from different decades).

    In order to cover all cases with the shipping methods that I would like to offer, a lot of rules have to be created in order to meet your requirements.

    In order to remain reliable that the calculations will always be correct, I have to weigh my entire inventory and enter individually.

    The maximum case is enforced.
    A maximum case that can not be foreseen.

    • It would be helpful to reduce the maximum requirements to an average number of articles.

    • It would be helpful to have a confirmation step for combined shipping so that the seller can confirm or correct the postage – before it is paid. (At CD&LP this is provided). For example, to grant a shipping discount.

    • It would be helpful, the strictly requirements only relate to your own offer list.

    • It would also be helpful if you could check your setting of shipping policies yourself. One cannot test it. Try and error, while refund is expensive.

    • The format list is to simple, it adds to much together, which has completely different consequences in terms of weight.

    There is no help with calculating the packaging. There is no help updating freight providers’ price increases. There is a need to quickly initiate a PayPal transfer.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 02:17

    This is stupid. Of course I am not doing that. It doesn’t make sense and it’s overly complicated.

  • Sep 22,2020 at 01:42

    The muteness of the Top Brass at Discogs in regard to our valid complaints of The New ASP is most unsettling

  • Sep 21,2020 at 22:36

    You had a perfect opportunity to project your community from PayPal by demanding they turn back the change in their terms, that allows them to take money that is not theirs. Fees on sales that are not sales, but just a few clicks on the computer. We can’t do anything about it and have to swallow, but you could. Especially in times like this, you could have stood up for your community that built your site for you. Music lovers. In stead of helping, you do exactly the same as PayPal. Force us into a money sucking system that is frustrating almost every one of it’s users. It is extremely dissapointing. I just lost more trust in humanity. It seems like there are no people left that can’t be bought. So sad….

  • Sep 21,2020 at 21:22

    agree with all the comments here, these policies are utterly and fundamentally terrible
    it’s creating havoc with my sales
    buyers are getting frustrated and turning away
    appalling by Discogs

  • Sep 21,2020 at 18:32

    I’m joining @TheRevealer — I’m protesting the shipping policy by not updating it.

    Discogs was the perfect site, built for and used by people who love and collect music. If what I’ve read in these comments is true, it disgusts me that they’d take something that was grown organically by their devoted users, then so callously turn their backs to them.

    Protests all over the country have led to changes. Is it too much to hope that this one will as well?

  • Sep 21,2020 at 18:12

    @ Mr. Discophilie

    Poor you who is too naive and/or too submissive to see where this all is heading to and why this shit is forced upon us.

    If you are ready and willing to meekly accept the DiscPal big business sellout and want to be a faceless part of it so be it. Thats your decision but please leave the rest of us who opposes being made slaves alone.

    apart from that I owe you no accountabillity, thanks.

    Even if it should be true that payments with other payment options than paypal are still allowed as of today Discogs has made it clear that this will end very soon and there is gonna be a paypal only requirement. Either directly on October 1st or soon in the days/weeks thereafter.

    Discogs themselves have announced in their FAQ blog posts that Paypal will be the only payment possibillity in Discogs. SEE CITATION BELOW! In another Blog Discogs has retrospectively postponed the Paypal requirement date. This will nonetheless come very soon again and everybody not utilizing Paypal will be excluded from the discogs marketplace.

    If this should be a wrong assessment why doesn’t discogs come forward and says this is not true???

    CITATION FROM DISCOGS BLOG:
    „Why is Discogs narrowing down payment options to PayPal?

    We have explored expanding a managed payments platform with Discogs Payments, but have identified several fraud and security risks that put both our sellers and Discogs at risk for collecting payment. We will continue to evaluate solutions that allow us to provide safe, secure transactions for everybody.
    PayPal also covers (close to) worldwide payments. Other payment providers simply do not have the same coverage, security, and flexibility to allow us to eliminate invoicing. With PayPal, you can pay with a credit or debit card without having an account.
    PayPal also ensures that we are compliant with financial regulation around marketplaces. Discogs, as a marketplace facilitator, is expected to collect taxes and know all finances coming through. This creates the potential for us to face high financial penalties. We’ve also found it’s putting a burden on our engineering team to develop finance tools instead of working on improvements to the Discogs platform itself.“

    SELLERS STAND IN SOLIDARITY AND JOIN THE OCTOBER PROTEST AGAINST THE DISCPAL SELLOUT. SIMPLY DO NOT SET UP THE AUTOMATED SHIPPING SHIT. LEAVE YOUR INVENTORY AS IT IS AND DON’T DELETE IT°!

  • Sep 21,2020 at 16:35

    Funny. It said my shipping policy was complete last night, but now it’s suddenly incomplete? Stupid.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 16:34

    This shipping idea is moronic. They need to listen to the plethora of sellers expressing their vehement discontent with the Draconian policies about to be implemented by Discogs.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 15:18

    Also again, some buyer have requested overnight shipping, how can I edit the shipping cost to reflect that and more importantly bill them correctly for that additional cost? Through Paypal? through Discogs? which?

  • Sep 21,2020 at 15:16

    Also, there are so many variables. Small LP? does that mean 10″ or 7″?

  • Sep 21,2020 at 15:13

    I have customers now paying more and sometimes less than they should be to ship items. I wouldn’t mind if Discogs populated the shipping cost based on their own page of suggested shipping for weight and items but for me to set it up this way – I’m thoroughly confused and frustrated.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 14:02

    Sorry I have another comment.

    That image at the top of the page, the ‘Scribbled World’. It’s very apt. It looks like a dogs dinner of incomprehensible nonsense.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 14:00

    Hi Discogs

    Could you please add an entry to the Shipping Policies Glossary?

    REVOLTING SELLERS: One of the hundreds (thousands?) who are refusing to apply ASPs and are actively finding other venues to sell their wares.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 13:45

    Just wanted to point out a real life example of how this policy is not working already.

    A customer ordered one LP and two 45’s from our store yesterday. They were presented with my one “catch-all” shipping option for multiple formats that is being dictated by Discogs despite having separate rates already built for LPs and 45’s (large and small vinyl). I set the rate as $25 so I don’t get caught losing money on a large order in the future – I figure if someone is placing an order where the shipping is over $25 I would be making enough to eat some shipping costs.

    The customer went ahead and placed two orders instead and paid two shipping charges (totaling $8.60), one of which I will now have to refund and lose some $ since greedy Paypal is keeping 100% of the fees.

    I imagine other customers may not be as creative and will just not place an order, so we lose sales and Discogs/Paypal lose their precious fees. Way to go!!!

    Whoever the genius is behind these changes should really quit their job and go work for the Trump administration’s COVID response team. They’d be perfect!!!

  • Sep 21,2020 at 13:09

    I’ve been loudly protesting this misguided policy since it was announced. Are you listening, Discogs? If you are, and you insist on implementing this foolish policy, here are a few suggestions:

    1)Create a button for the customer to use to contact the seller for a custom shipping price. This would be an alternative to immediate payment.

    2)Do not force sellers to quote prices for more than 5 items at a time. This ruling that our shipping policies are incomplete if we do not have calculations for orders of ANY SIZE-including our entire inventory-is frankly absurd.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 12:54

    I only just finished uploading a load of rare stuff and things were going pretty well until I saw this new shipping requirement. How on earth am I supposed to do this when pricing for shipping changes all the time in addition it hurts the consumer when they bulk buy and I cant offer them the best possible going price and it hurts me when I quote something and I lose money on it. This whole proposal has been poorly thought out. I don’t intend on adding any shipping policies and will pull the entire collection of 10K plus records and take them to record fairs instead.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 12:44

    So, my earlier post has been deleted. Can’t take a bit of criticism Discogs? I shall not be making any more contributions to the database, that’s for sure.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 11:14

    This is a perfect example of a change that does not benefit the user in any meaningful way. This is exactly what I always tell my team of engineers to avoid – don’t implement changes for our sake, implement changes only if they make the life of the user better.

    I will sit this one out until the end of the year. If it doesn’t work out, I will unlist all the items I have for sale. I simply don’t want to lose money selling my records and CDs. I’d rather donate them to charity then sell them through Discogs.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 11:08

    I totally agree on what onlyaudiophile says about PayPal. One transaction in my own webshop of an item that could not be ordered anymore did cost me 11 euros. 11 euros down the drain for nothing. They did not have to do anything for it. And a few months earlier it would have cost me 25 cents. I really can get furious that they have the power to do it and no one can do anything about it.
    With shipping costs not accurate on Discogs with the new policies, you can imagine what kind of money they make. Not only the fee on the sales, but with every cancellation they receive about 5% of the total amount.
    I don’t mind using the policy for some countries and some products, but it can’t be done for all the products all over the world. Simply impossible. Every miscalculation on shipping costs money. Please leave it as it is, and let people use the policy where it is possible. That’s how I have used it for over a year now.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 10:51

    Why not automatically import postage rates form the postal providers and allow sellers to add a fixed surcharge on top for mailers / envelopes?

    Its way too complex to set up every possible weight and value option for an item, THEN to try and do it for all combinations of multiple purchases of different values!

  • Sep 21,2020 at 10:46

    Discophilie: sure 5% paypal fee is a reasonable global money transfer option (let’s put aside the rediculous degree to which they favor buyers in disputes). but to charge their fees on refunds? come on now. and have you seen the FX fees they charge for currency exchange? their FX rates are nearly criminal, especially since they aren’t even converting any money, as they have accounts with currency all around the world, they are not really even making FX transactions in most cases. the sum total of paypal fee + possible refund charge + FX rate + fraud/favoritism to buyers is starting to get pretty rediculously high. its greed to keep profits growing for their investors. an alternative will come along, but not on this site as discogs is selling out to them. why do you think paypal is pushing to make these exclusive deals? because they currently have a near monopoly and see some fiesty competitors coming (transferwise etc), so they are trying to lock up as many quality profitable businesses as they can in exclusive contacts, and get their tentacles in so deep that there will be no going back.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 10:31

    These seems to be totally based on weight or quantity – NOT VALUE! Postage for a £150 CD is very different to a £4 CD but they both weigh the same. Am I missing something here?

  • Sep 21,2020 at 10:17

    It’s big difference between “platform assisting you” when you are in control of bill you pay and someone giving platform the right to take money for him from you without asking you.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 09:14

    Before the internet an international money-transfer, let’s say from Japan to Germany (as this is so fitting for me ), would have taken several weeks at best and it would at leastt have cost 20, maybe up to 30% fee for the bank who would have actioned the wiring. Now that is what I call greedy. I don’t enjoy paying fees, and I would welcome any serious competitor, but 5% on an international, transatlantic transaction and I have the money on my bank-account two to three days later is actually quite a good service,at least better than asking my asian buyers to put mone in an envelope and hope for the best, which seems to be the only other possible approach. I don’t know where you people live, but how do you imagine to be able to sell your items all around the globe as you say without these platforms assisting you? Tell me, because I really don’t seem to get it.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 08:50

    ever since paypal changed its policy to refuse giving up its fee when refunds are made, i lost all respect for it as a company. that is some greedy bullshit. in particular for a website devoted to selling mostly used records from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world, refunds are going to come with the territory–its inevitable. so for discogs to know that, and yet still get into bed all-in with paypal (in order to lighten discogs back-end administrative load), i really have a hard time respecting discogs anymore. its just sick to require sellers to cover paypal fees for refunds, which happen all the time (issues with record condition, buyers having different expectations, buyers changing their mind, mistakes being made, adjustments to complex global shipping costs, etc). now that discogs is clinging to paypal in a tight embrace, if discogs also starts either charging its fees on the shipping cost, and/or also keeping its fees on refunds, we’ll know where the discogs owner fully stands as a human being, which is to say, the descent into greedy money-obsessed scum.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 07:44

    I’ll be honest with you. I’m a pretty smart guy, a librarian with a cpl advanced degrees, and I can’t figure the new policy editor out. If I’m having trouble, you are going to lose a lot of your customers. Maybe offer an easy video tutorial or something? I don’t think I should have to register for a webinar to make changes to my shipping policy. I love Discogs and want to stick around.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 06:54

    You have used the knowledge and insight of millions of contributors over the years because Discogs exists only because of us. And now you will decide us as if we were just robots at your service. You only think about making a profit, I hope that the community of fans and music lovers to whom you owe absolutely everything will all start from what must be called now: the amazon of music. SHAME ON YOU

  • Sep 21,2020 at 06:52

    My comment was deleted. We’ll see what happens October 1st…

  • Sep 21,2020 at 06:50

    The new Discogs shipping policy rule: the best thing to ever happen to Ebay.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 06:40

    Well, judging by the comments here, I’m not the only one who thinks that this new shipping policy is ridiculous. I’ve been selling on here for almost a decade and I’ve NEVER had a problem with the way the shipping policies were handled so far, and I’ve NEVER had a customer complain. My shipping policies are clearly spelled out in the description for each item that I’m selling. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…this new shipping policy is cumbersome, confusing, and after several attempts at figuring it out, I still have NO idea how to use it or apply it to my sale items. I guess I’ll be kicked off after October 1st? Thanks, Discogs!

  • Sep 21,2020 at 05:59

    Wow, and who are you “the Revealer”? Everyone can see that you registered with this account just to post your “revolutionary” comment. What about your real identity on discogs? No policy implemented there, either? Your argument concerning paypal is, by the way, mostly invalid and probably mainly based on faulty assumptions. No matter where my customers come from and no matter whether they’re buying on discogs or ebay: at least 95% have been prefering paypal over bank-transfer for a long time, it’s not something that has happened over night. More important, though, is the fact that a customer here on discogs does not have to pay with paypal immediately after he has placed an order just because automated shipping-rates are implemented now. I tested it all out and it’s just not true: if you offer bank transfer, that option is still choosable by your buyer after he placed the order. He can also adress you after placing an order and ask for an updated invoice with fitting shipping-rates. I’m really not a fan of this idea of discogs’ myself and I agree with everyone saying that it could have been so much better organized. But the ranting of some here nevertheless seems mostly unsubstantial to me.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 05:55

    As i´m just a private collector and private seller … the new policies make no sense for me (or are just too mighty for my propose.. maybe good for professional sellers.. but unnecessary for me) >> so.. I WILL CLOSE MY STORE NOW! .. and use DC as library only… >> there are other options to sell music.. e.g. eBay or FB marketplace. .. >> It´s sad but it seems GREED IS THE NEW NORMAL ! (very disappointing)

  • Sep 21,2020 at 05:04

    Sorry Discogs, but I fear this won’t work.
    Even though I don’t accept some of the aggressive and unobjective comments here, but basically most people here are right.
    You’re making a good and approved method worse!
    But you are in good company though…most websites can’t leave a good thing as it is. The urge to change it (just for the sake of changing) seems very big.
    Personally I’m always a friend of lean processes but choosing the postage-topic for this is not a wise choice.
    To put something into an automated process, this needs a certain form of uniformity.
    But postage and shipping in over 240 countries is the worst you could choose.

    Before I critize, I give everything a chance and somehow I managed to set my policies up (don’t know if they will work though).
    I don’t understand why I have to set an all formats-policy when I only sell vinyl?
    The product “registered” is missing or I could not find it (or it means “Express”?).

    But to cut it short: the individual approach was better by far. Every seller put his terms in the description and there was never a problem with it.

    But most of all: the acceptance of this Policy by your customers tends to zero.
    Please think it over.

  • Sep 21,2020 at 04:40

    Update for every seller on the upcoming October Protest/Boycott against the compulsory automated shipping policies and the sellout of DiscPal

    EVERY SELLER IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO STAY STRONG AND DEFIANT AND IS ASKED TO JOIN THE PROTEST BY NOT SETTING UP THE ENFORCED CORRUPT SHIPPING POLICIES BY OCTOBER 1st!!!

    Every seller is also encouraged not to take down his inventory by himself but simply let everything as it is so that also every potential buyer sees in October what kind of big corporate take over and sellout is happening in Discogs. There will be millions of „unavailable“ items in the marketplace if DiscPal really will mark them as unavailable. Potential buyers need to see this in order to join the protest and start getting fucked up also.

    As I see quite some of the sellers who oppose these changed have lowered their heads already and gave in to the DiscPal dictate by setting up this corrupt shit: That’s very weak and really not a good example of solidarity. WE NEED SOLIDARITY AND DETERMINATION TO ACHIEVE OUR GOAL TO DEFEND OUR INTERESTS AND DIGNITY AND FORCE DISCPAL TO TAKE BACK THIS RIDICIOULOUS SHIPPING SHIT.

    This only works through depriving them their revenue by boycotting the new shipping shit.

    So don’t be weak and be ready for some weeks of protest/boycott. Nobody needs to boycott endlessly. Everbody is free to join the protest for as long as thinks he can maintain it. Be it only one ot two weeks or better 3,4,5 or 6 weeks or longer if you can manage it.

    BUT IMPORTANT IS THAT AS MANY SELLERS AS POSSIBLE WILL JOIN THE PROTEST IN THE BEGINNING!

    Rest assured that many sellers will join in the protest and will not set up these shipping policies in October although not voicing too much public opposition. They fear the punishing fist of authoritarian Discpal but are fully ready and willing to join the protest silently.

    SO EVERYBODY JOIN THE PROTEST! EVERYONE CAN JOIN SILENTLY! NO NEED TO PUT YOURSELF OPENLY INTO THE CRUCIBLE OF AUTHORITARIAN DISCPAL BY VOICING (too much) PUBLIC OPPOSITION IF YOU FEAR THAT.

    TOGETHER WE ARE STRONG, TOGETHER WE WILL DEFEND OUR INTERESTS AND TEACH THE EVIL AUTHORITARIAN DISCPAL A PAINFUL LESSON!

  • Sep 21,2020 at 03:38

    Can you not just populate the costs based on the country that we are based in? Or publish the answers somewhere? To put every seller through this complex and confusing process is completely inefficient. If you could just populate the costs for us, then we could “tweak” them as needed. I don’t want to have to sit through a 48-minute webinar as I’ve already spent an hour trying to work it out

  • Sep 20,2020 at 23:57

    56,845,715 items for sale yesterday at 22h00 vs 56,563,621 items for sale today at 9h00, two possibilities:
    close to 300 000 items sold this night or close to 300 000 items removed from the marketplace.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 23:22

    It would be very helpful if you would provide a list of precisely what formats each category consists of. For instance:
    • What is a LARGE VINYL? I assume it includes 12” LPs, but what about 16” transcription discs, either shellac or vinyl? Or are they OTHER?
    • I assume SMALL VINYL includes 7” singles and EPs. But what about 10” vinyl records. Are they SMALL OR LARGE? And what about shellac 10” 78 rpm records? Are they OTHER?
    • What about SACDs? Are they included in the CD category? My experience is that they are not. If they are not, why not?
    • Are Blue Rays included in the DVD category?
    • What about flex-discs? Are they OTHER?

    This project is clearly not yet ready for prime time.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 23:18

    We are the people of discogs guys and friends. Don’t change anything on October 1st and let see what discogs will do with no sales, no seller and no fees. This is our force against this stupid idea

  • Sep 20,2020 at 19:49

    in the extremely unhelpful instructions at the top of this post, it includes this baffling phrase: “No ‘All Formats’ method, but separate methods for each format (e.g. Vinyl (Large), Vinyl (Small), CDs, Cassettes, etc). As this doesn’t account for formats not listed in the editor this is considered incomplete.”…you mean to say, the shipping policy must account for formats not even listed in the shipping policy editor? truly baffling stuff…

  • Sep 20,2020 at 19:27

    This train wreck shipping policy has nothing to do with helping buyers with shipping costs. They don’t even like this! In hundreds of transactions I’ve had on this platform, I have not had one single buyer have an issue with shipping. NOT ONE. This is all about some corporate push to increase revenue. They don’t even care that you don’t like it.
    I’ve seen this with other competing non-music sites. My guess is that some competing site bought Discogs out, and are going to burn this site down, squeezing extra revenue from whoever decides to stick around, and counting on the fact that most others will flee to the parent site, whoever it is. A win-win for them. Because they know at the end of the day, sellers need to sell their product, WAY more then they need to help you sell it.
    The people who monitor-manage this site, likely have no experience selling records at all, let alone thru the mail. Suspicions I’ve had, due to other silly issues I’ve experienced on here. If they actually care about the wonderful buyers and sellers commerce here on Discogs, more than squeezing a few extra dollars from them, they will see all this 100% NEGATIVE feedback, and decide to suspend this pointless policy. If they don’t, well now you know what they’re real intensions are…Sad.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 17:26

    As an enthusiastic music lover using discogs since 2005, discovering new sound every week, archiving my own collection, adding a couple of releases, buying stuff for years and more recently selling from time to time, I have to say that this new shipping policy is a festering heap of shit. It gives headache when having only few special items to sell. So disappointed. Your app is bossy, heavy, messy, tricky, not suitable at all with local and individual realities. Discogs marketplace, as painful as it is, fuck off… I’d directly buy music from artists, labels, record shops and collectors elsewhere than support such an ill-designed nightmare

  • Sep 20,2020 at 16:16

    Anybody know of any alternatives to discogs, besides ebay and musicstack? This blows.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 14:59

    Well it was good while it lasted, but these changes will force me to take my business to another site. I tried setting up just for the U.S. and I have not been able to do it.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 13:49

    No comments for 10 days? That seems unlikely. I can only see this causing disruption, removal of items from the marketplace (current count 56,845,715), and huge damage to Discogs’ reputation. Please don’t make it mandatory.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 12:14

    OK this is a major headache for all concerned. I knew the price for 1 LP or 1 Single and so added that in to the order. Anything beyond that I would package up and get weighed at the post office and then set the shipping price. This method worked for all concerned. I don’t agree with the Diktat and ultimatum but it is not as difficult as it appears. The key thing is that the database knows the weight of a 7″ and of a 12″. So put the cost of shipping of an item weighing (say) 200g (i.e. a Single) at (say) £2 and of an item weighing 500g (i.e. an album) at (say) £4 and the shipping price will be automatically populated by the database. I have estimated costs for Europe on the same basis but will no longer sell to the rest of the world. I will fine tune the shipping policy as I go along.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 12:02

    o all sellers who do not want/or not able to fill in the asp, just don’t do it, you can also don’t pay your last invoice because of a greyed or an invisible shop give the exact same results…. No sales, no money in your pockets but NO FEES FOR DISCOGS…

  • Sep 20,2020 at 11:20

    No doubt those nice trendy foresighted pleasant people at Discogs couldn’t refuse the massive mouth watering offer from those horrible greedy world dominating people at Amazon. Abebooks was set up by nice pleasant people who were interested in old books. Guess who owns it now!

  • Sep 20,2020 at 10:03

    And why are you deleting negative postings?
    Are you mad?

  • Sep 20,2020 at 10:02

    We DON’T want your new shipping policy!

  • Sep 20,2020 at 09:38

    I thought I’d try and set these up early… This month I have only received 2 orders which didn’t use the policies I’d set up. I used to send to anywhere in the world. I could work out the postage costs when I received the order. I’m not going to set up policies for every individual country! So now it says ‘You do not accept orders from 189 countries.’- NOT BY MY CHOICE! I have mainly sent to Europe US and within UK in the past but none of the policies are ‘complete’ but they do cover all the items I sell just not everything with every possibility… PLEASE REVERSE THIS TERRIBLE DECISION BEFORE IT WRECKS DISCOGS FOR GOOD.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 09:10

    Discogs staff/ bosses/ whomever. Are you seriously not noticing that there is a lot of us who totally disapprove with this “must” policy. Can you imagine how many silent disapprovals are there, people who don’t comment. I personally know a few of them here in Germany. This whole system you set is bad for sellers and for buyers. I’ll have to remove cheapest shipping policies because I will be loosing days just to set everything up, and considering various parcel sizes, shipping options, etc, that different shipping companies are having, I will just not be able to add these. Therefore my customers will have to pay more when they order 1 7″ or 1 12″, or 1CD… Shame on you, especially because obviously you don’t even care, but just push your own interests, as any other online business these days. It’s horrible to see what the world has come to, even worse when we all know that without us you wouldn’t exist, and … that obviously we appreciate(d) you more than what you appreciate us when it comes to the “wants”. If you want something you don’t care what we want…

  • Sep 20,2020 at 08:48

    Another once great site turns into utter corporate evilness (and discogs made some steps in that direction before). No more acceptance of alternative payment methods means PayPal only and PayPal policy only, so everything needs to be shipped with track and trace. This makes it way too expensive for small orders/cheap items.
    Besides that, the ‘tool’ to set all the shipping options is impossible to work with… Picking individual countries – because postal services don’t just have tariffs for complete continents – is a drag. Sigh. It’s been a nice ride for over 10 years, but this makes it pretty much impossible to use Discogs any longer.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 07:00

    Sigh……i will just have to jump ship and boycott, shame really, shame on you Discbods

  • Sep 20,2020 at 05:48

    I see lots of people saying they’re going to go elsewhere instead of Discogs.

    But, where?
    LPCD? They have much higher commission/fees.
    Ebay? Fees, even if you don’t sell anything.
    Amazon. You can only sell it if it’s got a barcode. Also, their fees are high and they set unworkably low shipping, and remove anything from sale that they think is over priced.

    So, is there anywhere else?

    I completely understand why so many are totally peeved by this new Discogs policy, especially as the invoicing system has always worked fine, as it’s quite a dictatorial move that actually goes against the community spirit of the site. Also, it’s a lot brain scratching to suss-out something that works under this new policy. I had to botch it to something that roughly works, and add an extra message about it in my seller terms.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 05:43

    Antiquated and useless grading system, reckless removal of items from stores with no explanations and now this. I’m Canadian, and with variables for each item dictating shipping rates this is impossible to configure on a blanket basis. Size, weight, distance to destination, tracking or no tracking, insurance or no insurance, parcel or packet, air or surface —- all of these are item-dependent. And if each item doesn’t have all of these options specified you’ll stop potential customers from seeing my items?! Guess what, Discogs – customers have a message box to confirm shipping rates and options. They’ve been using messages for years on items that blanket rates don’t cover.
    As to the snakepit that is eBay that I sold on for a decade or more, I left to join here to find a safe, logical and honest place to sell my collection. Thanks for the ride. I’m gone.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 04:15

    This will be the end of the marketplace on Discogs, I understand there are sellers who do not have any postage prices stated but for those who do, we might as well go to ebay rather than jump through these hoops I have my shipping policy stated I have had no compliants, looks like I will sell up to and until September 30th then close down my store

  • Sep 20,2020 at 01:48

    The New ASP-Seems like it’s a dream/nightmare? I hope i awake from this nightmare to find discogs back to normal,as it was. But no after a reality check it is in fact for real! WTF?

  • Sep 20,2020 at 01:25

    This unique database is based on enthusiasts for whom music is more important than efficiency. Every collector and seller has his own philosophy – thousands of individuals. Music lovers need freedom and for themself. Paypal has too much global power. PayPal is not transparent, not customer-friendly and completely overpriced.

    Software should make life easier. But this shipping software makes global shipping impossible. And you know that.

  • Sep 20,2020 at 01:16

    I tried to post this comment more than 3 times on different blogpost and they’re still not published. Does discogs censored them just because I tell the truth?

    I’m against this new obligation because as I said many times, this asp doesn’t work for belgian, french, canadian and german sellers, if discogs believes than those sellers won’t miss him, just let them try for one month.
    They probably lose:
    close to 1,337,968 items from canadian sellers
    close to 3,117,339 items from french sellers
    close to 1,460,372 items from the belgian sellers
    close to 7,515,060 items from the german sellers

    Let see what discogs becomes with close to 13.430.739 items greyed and unavailable for sale. It’s close to 25% of the whole marketplace. They will make more benefits for sure…

  • Sep 19,2020 at 22:47

    I have to add my voice. These new shipping policies are terrible, everyone else is having the same problems with them as me.

    DISCOGS – why are you doing this ?? PLEASE suspend it and re-develop it somehow, you MUST realise that something isn’t right here ??? Anyone who set this up cannot be a normal Discogs seller.

    This has made me so very upset and I feel like I’m being prevented from selling here.
    It feels like a kick in the teeth after all the contributions and kind words over the years.

    I’m gonna have to say I agree with the idea of a protest, not joining in until something changes it for the better. I think I’m gonna HAVE to boycott it because I cannot seem to make it work, I really can’t.

    Other sites manage it, surely Discogs can too.
    PLEASE!!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 22:42

    Easier to sell on Ebay than deal with this shipping policies inanity. Sales tax charges were already ridiculous. This is just adding salt to the wound. Not worth my time setting this up. Covid lockdowns, mega fires fucking with our lungs, racist pigs shooting unarmed citizens. Fuck this and Fuck Trump !

  • Sep 19,2020 at 22:35

    i’m boycotting this marketplace, it’s just been proven that discogs couldnt organise a pissup in a brewery, wtf is this bullshit ?

  • Sep 19,2020 at 20:08

    I encourage every seller to remain defiant against the DiscPal tyranny.

    Everybody who has already decided to thoroughly leave discogs, thats fine. You can come back once DiscPal has turned back into discogs.

    THE REST OF US IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO JOIN THE OCTOBER PROTEST!!!

    October Protest / Boycott means: We will not be forced into submision and we will simply REFUSE to set up these crazy compulsory shipping policies for the sake of DiscPal aka Paypal. Even if that means DiscPal will mark our listings as being unavailable/unpurchasable.

    There is no need to publicly agree on the October Protest/Boycott. Everybody with self respect who is ready to stand up for his freedom and beliefs is wholeheartedly welcomed to join in silently. SIMPLY REFUSE TO SET UP THE CORRUPT SHIPPING EDITOR SHIT!

    In other parts of the world people have to risk their lives in order to protest against dictatorships and for the restoration of their dignity and freedom. The only consequence we face is a couple of weeks without our discogs income. This is well worth it in order to teach the new authoritarian DiscPal a painful lesson and to bring it back to reality

    THE ONLY LANGUAGE THE NEW AUTHORITARIAN DISCPAL MONSTER UNDERSTANDS IS THE DECIMATION OF ITS REVENUE! SO STAY STRONG AND DETERMINED AND JOIN THE OCTOBER PROTEST!!!

    TOGETHER WE HAVE THE POWER TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS AND OUR INTERESTS AND THIS SIMPLY NEEDS TO BE DONE!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 19:41

    Discogs…
    Are you really going to carry out this new terrible system?
    Could you please think that over one more time?

    Sincerely.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 18:17

    in theory an automated shipping cost system could be made to work…but only after a significantly longer development timeframe, with signigifcanly more input from sellers of all sizes…this rollout is being rushed WAY too quickly, and the system being forced upon us is grotesquely inadequate and flawed. the fact that you can’t even cap an order size at 2kg package weight or something of your choosing, but instead are meant to have shipping rules that cover an infinite sized order to anywhere in the world that you ship to, is utterly absurd. while i don’t typically ship with insurance, many sellers do (for items over a certain value), and not having some flexibility to set up insured shipping options is truly crazy and idiotic, and is basically guaranteed to force some sellers to leave discogs. and lets not get started on forcing sellers to only use paypal. what a joke. some really sketchy things going on behind the scenes, either some backroom deal already made with paypal, or some high paid consultant who knows nothing about the realities of selling musical formats was brought in to make discogs a more “efficient” online marketplace in advance of an upcoming sale of the platform.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 16:00

    Why is this update even necessary? Discogs, you will be killing the Marketplace due to this.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 15:27

    Having read most of the above negative comments I can only agree with them…WTF! I can’t make head or tail of it and will also probably leave and put my stuff up for sale somewhere a lot more user-friendly (why oh why change it?) A big loss, and discogs will lose out on their commission. such a shame.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 15:03

    Well that’s 30 minutes I’ll never get back. I could not find a way to satisfy the shipping policy just for the US. I can’t imagine what would be involved in setting up international shipping. I sent a message to dick-ogs that I will be suspending my inventory on 10/1 until they rescind this policy.

    Boycott!!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 14:15

    Utterly bonkers, I am seeing confused sellers all over Facebook and other forums, most saying that they are just not going to bother anymore. There has been zero feedback on this matter from Discogs as far as I can see. It’s gone from a simple system that worked fine to one that is insanely complicated and time consuming that doesn’t work properly. Unless something changes I’m just closing up shop and selling elsewhere.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 14:05

    Longtime seller and buyer here with close to 3,000 positive feedbacks. This system sounds fine in theory but put into practice there are far too many variables and nuances to consider for this new policy to work, especially with international orders. Please listen to the hundreds of other users here asking you to not instate this policy.

  • wid
    Sep 19,2020 at 12:35

    It looks like no one at discogs HQ have even tried to setup a shipping policy.

    Not listening to users (buyers and sellers) lead to poor design.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 12:12

    I tried for an hour to get this working. Needless to say it doesn’t work properly.

    I am not going to update my shipping policy.

    If this continues, I will go to another platform.

    If the problem is people listing items for too little and compensating by charging too much for ship. Charge the same fee on shipping too. Simple!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 09:39

    Insanity At It’s Finest-That’s the New ASP. I will not set this thing up-absolutely nothing wrong with how things were before. I’ll be selling elsewhere come Oct 1-Soooo loooong Discogs!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 08:35

    What is the problem with keeping sellers t&c’s?(If it aint broke ‘n all that) I have been a dg user for years, I’ve never had an issue reading or writing(my own) sellers t&c’s.. I do have a problem figuring out how to use the shipping editor, that’s why I and(off the top of my head) 90% of users have written thier own sellers t&c’s while deciding the shipping editor is not fit for purpose.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 08:32

    Am I the only one on here who thinks that since PayPal is now running this show, that why can’t Discogs use the same shipping calculator that eBay uses, which works quite efficiently? If I want to sell something from my private collection, I’ll sell it on eBay for minimal effort and perfect feedback.

    Meanwhile, I’ll continue to use Discogs specifically to document my 35yr CD collection specifically for my homeowner’s insurance policy. Thanks for the spreadsheet..

  • Sep 19,2020 at 08:19

    With a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing and a Master’s Degree in Business Administration, I’m not smart enough nor am I willing to waste my time setting up this ridiculous shipping policy. There are plenty of other on-line market places to sell my inventory.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 08:13

    I must admit I am in total agreement with the comments regarding a totally confusing waste of time trying to suss this shipping editor. I sell maybe 5 records a month on discogs, I buy and use dg as a good source of knowledge, it’s now lookong like my intrest in the market place has run it’s course if this ridiculously complex editor is not revised, changed or just kept the way it is allowing users to set the shipping up if they can suss out how to use the thing!? Obviously sellers are not using it as it’s impossible to use. So sort out a better system to set shipping policies, then the sellers will use it!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 07:43

    THIS IS SERIOUSLY INSANE = good bye DISCOGS

  • Sep 19,2020 at 07:36

    Hey DISCOGS, if you make things so terribly complicated for sellers and fail to deliver a proper manual: why don’t you make an individual hotline / customer service available ?

  • Sep 19,2020 at 06:09

    I have taken my inventory offline, and I will not be making any more purchases until Discogs does away with this insultingly awful system. I recommend that anyone else who is unhappy do the same.

  • Sep 19,2020 at 05:44

    I’m trying here to gather some aspects showing the stupidity and naivety of the new shipping system; if other sellers have faced other aspects, please add them so Discogs get a fantastic collection of useless parameters and …. maybe … will some day find out they’d better change it and kill the monster!

    1. “your Shipping Policies will need to cover all potential orders of all formats, up to unlimited weight or quantity.”
    Even if you have time enough to set up a necklace of policies up to several tons, you will always stumble upon the next range, left empty with a cost of 0, which you may come to pay for in REALITY!
    2. Edit your policy when shipping costs change? Discogs has made it easy for you —> you have to start it all one more time …. great …. great …. great ….
    3. Delivery time? Discogs again make it easy and forces you to choose a range of days that NEVER equally will face reality for an entire region + give a buyer the false belief that things always go quick! Strikes? Corona? Discogs hasn’t thought of this or doesn’t care!
    4. Policy based on weight? Sellers, you will have to take into consideration the standard weight of the material used to ship and set up your policy accordingly with a complicated calculation because Discogs only takes the weight of the format (CD, LP, DVD) into consideration; your range of weight will have to be consequently biased and will NEVER cover ALL reality!
    5. Has the buyer special wishes? Split an order into several packages in order to save money? Now impossible! Buyer, pay! Seller, pay! Discogs, Paypal will collect money on false basis …. milking the dear *community*
    6. Want to faithfully follow Discogs new shipping policy? Then prepare yourself with using a lot of time making a new policy to EVERY boxset, 180 gr. LP with gatefold cover, anpother for those without gatefold, another for non 180 gr. vinyls, one for every special package for sale and so on ….
    7. Or you’ll have to weigh EVERY item for sale, correct the estimated weight, add the different packagings you may offer and – cherry on the cake – create a specific policy for EVERY SINGLE of those …… see you in 20 years, probably before or never because Discogs can’t survive THIS! Mass migration will take place, current political topic those days, now also hitting the music world!

  • Sep 19,2020 at 04:02

    Impenetrable, extremely poorly thought out (did you have help from the British Government?) and excluding for all but large scale sellers who can absorb the discrepancies in postal costs that this change will bring about.
    If Discogs are looking to clear out smaller sellers who don’t do this as a business then they’ll succeed very quickly – if that’s not the intention then their profits will surely drop as sellers are excluded from markets for incomplete shipping policies. Maybe that will be the only thing that will make them reconsider these changes…

  • Sep 19,2020 at 02:30

    I agree with TheRevealer, but in this time of Covid, global warming, forest fires & orange skies, let’s be not too melodramatic…

    F. Zappa could have said : “Discogs is not dead… it just smells funny” !

    As a very modest non-professional hobby seller, I am inclined to say : Old Discogs, OUR Discogs is dead.

    Because fact is : As Discogs didn’t propose neither a vote nor even a poll to sellers about this drastic shipping policy change, that means their decision was made from the start !

    Proof is : no real communication after hundreds of negative comments in 3 different blogs (september 9 & 10, july 14), yes, more than 900 comments (including 300+ which were deleted), and those comments are probably only the top of the iceberg… we can suppose there are thousands other sellers who are unhappy.

    So there seems to be no more real community… It’s not dictatorship, which would mean “Shut up !”, it’s just fake democracy, which means “Keep talking, my friend !” : hence the blogs, where unhappy sellers can vent their anger… but of course silence or waffle about the wonderful ASP editor is the reply from “New improved” Discogs…

    All that leaves to think that Old Discogs has been sold to Paypal or I-don’t-know-who, and you know the script, it’s in the good tradition of “Thanks for all, but here we are, and we know better than you what’s good for you !

    Please look at the blog of september 10, title of which is “Discogs hits another milestones in 2020…” :
    I let you savor its last paragraph : “We would like to extend a massive THANK YOU to all of our contributors over the years. The Database would be absolutely nothing without your diligent work and relentless digging over the past 20 years. We hope the Database is a source of both comfort and knowledge during this extremely odd time. We look forward to 14 million!”.

    Put together that paragraph and this imposed ASP editor thing, and don’t you feel like some little ache at the bottom of your back, huh ??

    After careful consideration, the best solution for unhappy sellers who just have “manual” shipping policies seems to be : to do NOTHING, i.e. not to set up imposed automatic shipping policies.
    From october 1st many buyers will notice that myriads of items are unavailable here and there, so maybe that will question them…

  • Sep 19,2020 at 02:27

    Because I cannot predict how expensive it will be to send my entire inventory to any country in the world, am I forbidden from selling a single item to the world?

    Where does the free content come from (the huge capital of the Discogs) when the community is regulated by PayPal?

  • Sep 19,2020 at 02:16

    I am leaving this marketplace.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 22:19

    I have now tried to implement the new shipping rules to my account, but I have sadly discovered that it just simply won’t work properly for sellers shipping from Sweden. It doesn’t take in consideration of the weight of the packing material. Only the actual weight of the item itself.
    Here’s an example:
    If I’m going to be forced to make prices of the item’s weight it will mean that I have to offer a shipping price of 7$ for a LP if I also want to sell a CD. They weigh about the same, but In Sweden the shipping cost for 1 CD is about 7$. 1 LP cost about 17$ to ship. Huge difference. If you take away the ability to list shipping prices according to format instead of weight, I won’t be able to sell on Discogs anymore as it is impossible to set up a correct shipping rate only accordingly to weight.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 22:15

    I have now tried to implement the new shipping rules to my account, but I have sadly discovered that it just simply won’t work properly for sellers shipping from Sweden. It doesn’t take the consideration of the weight of the packing material. Only the actual weight of the item itself.
    Here’s an example:
    If I’m going to be forced to bade prices of tje item’s weight it will mean that I have to offer a shipping price of 7$ for a LP if I also want to sell a CD. They weigh about tje same, but i Sweden the shipping cost for 1 CD is about 7$. 1 LP cost about 17$ to ship. Huge difference. If you take away the ability to list shipping prices according to format insteaf of weight, I won’t be sble to sell on Discogs anymore as it is impossible to set up a correct shipping rate only accordingly to weight.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 19:55

    Sure. THEY delete my comment THEY didn’t like. It’s ‘1984’ by George Orwell, trust me.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 19:47

    THEY control the users. THEY filter the comments. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 18:23

    copy of email just sent to discogs, i will see what respose i get
    Sorry but it is all wrong, i will ask you questions
    If i set up for standard delivery, what happens if a buyer wants tracked?
    How do i set up standard shipping for similar items that cost more to send, ie a £50 record costs more than a £2 record because of post insurance.?
    Records are not a standard weight, so how do i adjudicate on a number, when one person might be able to get 9 records for 2kg, where another buyer might only get 6 because of the weight differences of the individual items.
    What happens when a buyer buys different formats in the same order?
    2 cds can be sent as a small letter, but a double cd with a thick case has to be sent as a small parcel because of the width, how does standardisation of shipping policy difference between the 2?
    Courier prices change daily, especially during the pandemic, do i have to look each day at prices and then change my shipping policy accordingly every day?
    To set up shipping policies for every country will take days to do as we will have to look up every country and every weight, uk shipping is set in weight brackets, upto 250g, 251-500g, 501-750g, 751g-1kg, 1.01kg-1.5kg, 1.51kg-2kg, so i would have to check 6 weight parameters for all countries, that is over 1,500 searches.
    There are many more oddities i could list but feel i would be wasting my time as you obviously do not take notice of the people that have built up your site over the years.
    In my currant premises i can hold around 14,000 records which are listed on discogs, i have just arranged to extend my premises so i can list twice as many, up to 28,000, i have paid over $30,000 in discogs fees during the time i have been on your site, but from the 1st October, i will no longer be listing anymore records on your site, unless the nonsense shipping policy is cancelled. Looking through the Blogs and forums on your site, i will not be alone in making that choice. I suggest you take notice and read the blogs from sellers regarding this policy, otherwise you will be losing a lot of sellers.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 17:48

    Created for the benefit solely of Discogs (and their commissions), forces a tight mechanistic automated (cheaper) system, that cannot ‘fit all’ situations. I believe they will retreat from this mishandled implementation in a few months, when they discover, to their surprise, that sales FALL. There is something to be said for buyers getting interested in an item, and getting the information of terms gradually. The shipping policy mechanism is overly complicated, lacks flexibility, and allows DiscPal elimination of ‘post invoicing’. Ie it is about cost and service reduction. It vastly reduces the human contact element between buyers and sellers. Buyers do not merely get ‘confidence’ from Seller rating. They also get confidence from tone and responses from actual seller. This robotic system WILL REDUCE buyer confidence/communication with sellers, and sales will FALL. Discogs are cutting off their noses to spite their face. Discogs being manipulated dominated by Paypal. This experiment is doomed.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 16:05

    I just want to display my displeasure with these new changes Discogs. I never sold here but I’m a frequent buyer and I have frequently bought from international sellers. With placing these forced changes, buyers like me would be limited in our purchase options. I have dedicated countless hours in building my profile and in my contributions. It’s the passionated music community here that built Discogs into one of the biggest sites out, never forget this when implementing this force change that has no benefit for the little people. Shame that one of my favorite sites is heading this direction. Shame, shame , shame.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 14:42

    There is no need for everyone to publicly agree to the resistance and the october protest. I fully understand that many of you already fear to speak your mind as you see the authoritarian power of DiscPal looming over you and fear that it might turn against you once you voice opposition.

    ITS FULLY FINE IF WE SILENTLY AGREE ON THE OCTOBER PROTEST: EVERYONE WITH SELF RESPECT IS INVITED TO JOIN IN.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 14:41

    Its a total perversity that discogs, a community built site which would be nothing if it were not for the countless INDEPENDENT efforts of its members to build this database, binds its fate and therefore the fate of its community to the mercy of paypal. WITHOUT EVEN ASKING! WITHOUT COMMUNITY CONSENT! BY CENTRAL COMMITEE DICTATE! As everybody knows, PP is a totally authoritarian, endlessly greedy and mercilessly arrogant shark that dictates its conditions upon those under its umbrella.

    Discogs is dead now. Discogs has turned into DiscPal – an ugly and soulless giant corporate behemoth

    It has revealed that it is the wolf in sheeps clothes.

    Anyone ever had the „fun“ of being arbitraily banned by paypal? If not go googeling and see how patroinizingly, how disgustingly arrogant they treat those people. They don’t explain anything, they give you no reasons and refuse any communication, they simply freeze your money for six months and simply rule and you have to obey like the feeble peasant that you are in their merciless giant corporate eyes.

    DISCPAL ALREADY BEHAVES THE SAME AUTHORITARIAN WAY AND COMMUNICATES OR BETTER SAID REFUSES TO COMMUNICATE AND INTERACT IN THE SAME ARROGANT WAY PAYPAL DOES.

    IT ROTTENLY STINKS AS IF PAYPAL HAS ALREADY FULL DECISION-MAKING-POWER IN DISCOGS!!!

    Dont get me wrong. Everybody should be free to use paypal if they want to. Paypal provides a service for international payments. Expensive and with shady terms of usage, yes, but a somewhat convenient service as long as neither buyers or paypal decide they there is a problem and everybody who wants to use paypal should of course be free to do it. Live and let live. Although there are also really better, friendlier and way cheaper alternatives for international payments like for instance Transferwise that are being kept small. Paypal of course does everything to ensure it keeps its de-facto monopoly for international payments and thus can dictate its authority over those under its umbrella

    But its a total offense and basically a onesided declaration of war that DiscPal wants to force everyone under the umbrella of paypal. Europeans (who already pay higher discogs fees due to EU taxes) will be deprived of the frequently used free bank transfer and everybody else in the world will loose the freedom to independently decide which payment option they want to use. This means a large large increase in fees for every seller who up til now uses – at least in parts – different payment options than paypal. AND IT WILL MEAN THE END OF THEIR DISCOGS CAREER FOR ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS THAT CANNOT OR REFUSE TO USE PAYPAL!

    SHAME ON YOU, DISCPAL!!!

    AND ALWAYS REMEMBER: The one and only reason for the introduction of the compulsory Shipping Editor is to ensure that each and everybody in the discogs marketplace is forced into paypal.

    So those of you who are merely totally frustrated because of the 100% inadequete and corrupt shipping editior that is forced upon you please always remember this is only done for the benefit of paypal.

    This is the one and only reason for your suffering!

    So everybody with self respect who denies being made a slave: STAY STRONG AND REFUSE SETTING UP THESE CRAZY SHIPPING POLICIES IN OCTOBER! LET’S MAKE OCTOBER THE MONTH OF PROTEST AGAINST THE SELLOUT OF DISCOGS!

    STRUGGLE AND FIGHT BACK AGAINST THOSE THAT WANT TO FORCE US ALL INTO SUBMISSION!!!

  • Sep 18,2020 at 14:18

    Hey,
    to all who has problem to register their ASP (like me), i have understand something i think really bad explain by Discogs on the tutorial.

    When you register the first line with quantity or weight, NEVER enter something on the field “AND UP”. Apply your rate and then add a new range. The AND UP field will be filled automatically and then you can change it if you want. If you change it before add a new range you will have the famous message “Your policy is incomplete”.

    I don’t know if it’s explain something but for me it’s just a bug which need to be fix quickly by @DiscogsOfficial.

    Cheers
    Denis

  • Sep 18,2020 at 13:21

    “Official Discogs”: if you are unable to understand what’s bellow in comments: we don’t want your changes or links to your “seller rep: yes boss it’s fantastic idea!”
    “all formats” make no sense…

  • Sep 18,2020 at 13:02

    If this goes forward I’m not selling on Discogs anymore. The freedom and simplicity of having each seller determine their own seller terms is the way to go.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 12:31

    Hier hat Corona in voller Härte zugeschlagen. Nach Begleichung der neuen Rechnung ist hier Schluss mit Lustig.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 12:22

    My last post on this. I’ve been a member since 2010. Not a big seller but I do have on average about 500 items for sale. I used to be a buyer at Tower Records Piccadilly in London. I have boxes upon boxes of lovely product that haven’t seen the light of day. I was going to add to the Discogs database, but with what is going on with this crazy shipping policy…. not a chance. Discogs have completely screwed us all. All of the buyers, sellers and contributors who have made them. It’s left a bad taste in my mouth … and unfortunately I will never have anything good to say about Discogs. I will spread the word while crate digging in London, Utrecht etc. There are lots of us who feel the same and Discogs don’t care. It’s obvious ! Kevin and co. …. you should be ashamed of yourselves. Hope you go down in flames. There are other platforms ………. goodbye

  • Sep 18,2020 at 12:17

    contradiction?
    See below
    1-Shipping Policies based on format and quantity
    You can set a combined Shipping Policy by selecting the format (All formats or specific formats) on the left and then choose “quantity” to add shipping costs based on quantity ranges:

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    Note: You can add multiple shipping methods using different format options on the left!

    Shipping Policies combining format and weight
    2-No ‘All Formats’ method, but separate methods for each format (e.g. Vinyl (Large), Vinyl (Small), CDs, Cassettes, etc). As this doesn’t account for formats not listed in the editor this is considered incomplete.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 12:01

    @OfficialDiscogs

    No demo putting items in the cart?

    I would skip that too if I was asked to make a demo knowing 2 or more items in the cart will show shipping cost will be determined by seller.

    Very clever

  • Sep 18,2020 at 11:46

    Hello
    1st – I spent 4 hours at discogs for nothing, to read “incomplete data” every time
    while I followed the instructions well, but my specialty is music and not the work of a discog moderator ”
    2: to have an answer, curiously since the announcement of the changes, we accuse the corona of the slowness of the answers
    3- discogs which used to be a friendly meeting place gave way to hell
    4: flexibility and friendliness will disappear (which was the charm of discogs)
    5: impossible to fix shipping costs fixed in advance for any eventuality !!!! and what to do when the post of the country of dispatch increases its prices? Personally I think that if a maximum of sellers will lose feathers in this new regulation, discogs does not care and has become a money machine !!!!
    5. many sellers may return to other platforms for sale
    signed: one of the many disappointed

  • Sep 18,2020 at 11:41

    I have a question to the community. By now I always differentiated between “cheap items” (I shipped them not insured and not registered because it’s cheaper for the buyer) and “more expensive items” (registered, insured). Can I set it up in the new setting to still differentiate? Is there any way to differentiate by value of the item?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 11:23

    If you were unable to attend this week’s webinars, please utilize the replay to set up your shipping policies:
    US | https://youtu.be/LHY41pillVE?t=536
    EU | https://youtu.be/4zxe6x0t4uo

    This is demo is meant to help you understand the new editor. Discogs by no means dictates what world regions you are required to ship, that is up to each individual seller. However, you ARE required to have a complete policy for regions you choose to sell to by Oct. 1 otherwise your items will show as “unavailable for sale” in incomplete regions.

    If you are having trouble or need assistance, please email your seller rep:
    North/South American Seller Lead, Christopher | cmasagatani@discogsinc.com
    European Seller Lead, Russ | rryan@discogsinc.com

  • Sep 18,2020 at 11:00

    This is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever seen. I’ve given up trying to complete the shipping editor. It makes no sense. Discogs is deliberately destroying its seller community.

    Kind of telling that I’ve not seen a SINGLE positive comment. Literally every seller is tearing their hair out in despair

  • Sep 18,2020 at 10:56

    Pretty funny that quite literally not one person thinks this is an idea of sound mind. Perhaps take a que from that Discogs.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 10:42

    I’m being a “good boy” and trying to comply with what Discogs is asking, cos I’m anticipating listing my entire collection of vinyl soon (after I’ve finished listing all CDs). After some time I’ve finally figured out how to get all green lights (“This shipping policy is complete”). Even though it’s not really complete at all (what a waste of time), but that’s not why I’m here to comment. I come back to the shipping policies page and it is completely cleared of everything I have worked on, entered and saved. I fill it all out again, refresh, or open in a new tab, and again, completely cleared, and getting all “This policy is incomplete” notes. Why has nothing been saved? And yes, I’ve clicked the “Save changes” button on every region’s shipping policy.
    Anyone at Discogs care to explain what’s happening here?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 10:14

    Very bad decision, postal rates are constantly changing (at least one time a year) and most of all, every vinyl or cd’s is always a bit different, some cd’s are under 100g, some over… some vinyl are heavier, some are fragile and you need to make the packet stronger & heavier… Each time we send the p&p price we need to check the real packet (ready to be shipped) and with the options available and asked by the buyer after agreement (sometimes you need to explain why tracking is better or not, why it needs and insurance, depending on item or destination of the packet. P&p on a Discogs order is really “homemade” for each customer in order to make pay only the real price not a kind of “estimated price”. It’s really wrong and makes Discogs as absurd as the big gafam systems. Hope Discogs staff will review their copy!

  • Sep 18,2020 at 10:02

    As a regular buyer I can say that the new policy is wrong and stupid decision which create total mess in the Discogs system and there will be much less seller’s listings, if so I prefer Ebay, CDandLP or MusicStack !

  • Sep 18,2020 at 09:25

    The perfect commercial suicide.
    Only a fool can devise a shipping cost calculation that includes the rates of all couriers in the world for worldwide shipments of objects of such different objects and subject to all conceivable individual variables.
    Only a moron can put it into practice, driving his customers on the run and driving his company to commercial disaster.
    Discogs is doing it.
    #heroes

  • Sep 18,2020 at 09:12

    I posted this on Sept 17 and it was deleted-
    I’ve dealt records for over 45 years with a carefully-built positive reputation. I recently moved all 45’s from ebay, having amassed over 39,400 positives over the last 22 years.
    My kickoff Discogs listings each have detailed shipping prices and offer buyer amenities for all sorts of size and format combinations.
    In short I am a small volume hi-quality seller.
    These changes seem antithetical to the Discogs philosophy. Not b/c measurements are metric but b/c you are attempting to add burdensome structure to what is already a simple system. Ever heard of the KISS principle?
    I left ebay mostly b/c of managed payments and the need to constantly fix the unbroken and also due to their not balancing seller & buyer “rights”. Now I am questioning if I made the right decision.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 09:07

    Veery poor decision. Within my country the difference in basic postage could be as much as $7 depending how near or far the buyer is. I always tailor the shipping cost to the desires of the buyer in any country. This new system is inflexible and unrealistic in a world where postal costs are ALWAYS CHANGING.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:57

    hay i loooove the new shipping changes!!!!!!………(said nobody using Discogs ever!!!!)

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:30

    something else the good people at discogs dont seem to realize, is that they loose something more important than money: goodwill. people willing to spend time and effort to contribute, moderate and add stuff. and without that, the site will be dead in no time. after all, why would you give time to a company that discards its loyal users and builders of its database this way? im not a seller, but as a buyer and contributor, it’s over.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:25

    I join the large chorus of Discogs sellers who, despite our admiration and fandom for the operation, are flummoxed by this complicated and needless change. After much time tinkering and trying to obey the new policy rules, I still get the dreaded “This policy is incomplete,” with nobody to help. Can we still be friends?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:24

    discogs wird es schon merken, wenn viele Leute hier nichts mehr kaufen oder verkaufen.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:20

    This a bad idea. Hopefully after October when discogs realise there is a lot less traffic on the site they’ll reverse this retrograde decision. I tailor each order based on the value, size, weight and therefore the cost and that has been trouble free. I set up policies for UK Europe and USA having spent time calculating extra weight of packaging etc but apparently all my policies are now incomplete and I no longer can sell to the the whole world (or anywhere now it seems) unlike before.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:14

    Hoffentlich wacht discogs auf und zieht diese blödsinnige Versandkostenberechnung zurück. Die alte Regelung war gut und ich persönlich habe mich immer mit den Käufer geeinigt wie der Versand erfolgen soll. Leute, macht PayPal nicht reich und meidet dieses Bezahlsystem. Ich habe discogs ein anderes Bezahlsystem angeboten. Leider keine Reaktion von discogs. Aber sie werden es schon merken wenn sich viele Leute hier verabschieden.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 08:13

    I am new and purchase more than I intend to sell and I don’t know what I’m doing with regards to this shipping policy request. Can someone help me set up a basic version which I understand and wont be out of pocket if and when I do start selling items?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 07:38

    In the UK postage prices have been hiked twice this year so far. This new shipping system is time-consuming and will need to be revised rather too often for small traders like myself. Stupid move, quite inconceivable why they think it is a good idea.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 07:36

    Last month Zink Media shut down the Discogs subsidiary database sites Bookogs, Comiocogs, Posterogs, Filmogs and Gearogs. Something is afoot…

  • Sep 18,2020 at 07:05

    Very frustrating. How do I add a registered shipping option?
    if someones checkout and pays for standard, am I suppose to chase after him after payment to add the registered option separately?
    and do I add a separate shipping cost for a double lp or a double CD? the cost for each additional also is not clear. anybody?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 07:02

    Having given this some further thought, I think the aim of this asinine move is in order to push out small-smaller sellers. This is what happens in other industries where the big bully boys collude to have an equal slice of the pie and they need to kick out the smaller players, by making the cost of doing business high, such as awkward/difficult rules & regulations plus regular changes (none of which the big boys have to comply with). It’s all a manipulation.
    It might also be part of the mega plan, to reduce all the millions of businesses in the world to just a handful.
    It is happening all over the world at the moment and the end result, along with “other things going on and in the pipeline to come”, will create a much different human existence/experience..and with much less people…

    I hope many people will resist and give the appropriate finger(s)/hand signal to this site, because our acquiescence and compliance is their only weapon against us.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 06:53

    i fooled around for hours now – finally having the s—t completed inly to find out that now every format has the same rate. time waster. fuck this. and fuck you discog!

  • Sep 18,2020 at 06:36

    I will make my final purchases on Discogs and take my product off the site by Oct 1. Such a stupid decision to mess with the model that was working perfectly.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 06:15

    Bad decision. I have taken my inventory offline.
    I will NOT be selling through Discogs while this policy stays in place.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 05:59

    So against this.
    No seller ever complained about invoicing at all, now it’s an avalanche of hostility.
    What is it about humans that constantly need to sabotage something that works perfectly?
    I’d urge sellers to sit tight and urge a surrender from the firm which is what I’ll be doing as a fairly big seller.
    Evilbay has been continually shooting itself in the face since 2004. Do not copy them, Discogs is near perfect as it is.
    Listen to the sellers on here and the thousands of posts on the forum only one seller is pro ASP, 99.9% are against.
    You are not immortal and this mental decision may well kill you.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 05:45

    Why is the ASP setup made so hard to use? Two weeks ago it was fine, but now requirements to “complete the shipping policies” is outrageous. Makes no sense and no matter what I set, it says it’s incomplete. Like 99.9999999999% of people commenting here, you’re destroying the site for good.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 05:04

    Small volume newer user here. I’ve been paring down my record collection and selling on Discogs for just a few months now, and I will likely stop once this change goes into effect.

    Individual invoices work perfectly considering the variable nature of album weights, buyer locations, and the wild daily fluctuations in shipping rates. Asking sellers to set a catch-all fixed shipping price is asking Discogs users on both ends of a transaction to be prepared to incur potential losses on shipping; losses that will amount to massive financial gains for both Discogs + Paypal.

    This is especially wack considering that the users *who built your entire database* are trapped in the economic turmoil of an unending national pandemic. It comes across as poor timing / failure to read the room at best, and unsympathetic corporate greed at worst.

    I have not been on here long and have enjoyed your model thus far, but I have little allegiance to Discogs and there are plenty of other places to sell a record where none of this is an issue. I’ll likely jump ship, and I have a feeling a lot of other users will be doing the same. Might be time for ya’ll to reconsider.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 04:39

    I’ve been using Discogs for over 10 years and sell a CD, LP or 7″ every day – it’s a great resource and I love it the way it is – the shipping policies that everyone currently uses work really well and there is absolutely no reason to change them – this new policy is incredibly complicated and unnesessary – I cannot even begin to work out how to set them up and cannot see a reason to – Discogs need to reconsider what they are trying to implement and cancel it before they lose a lot of customers and revenue!

  • Sep 18,2020 at 04:35

    If it has to be like this, then it is no longer necessary for me. Too bad, but I will be gone by the first of October.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 04:32

    what’s happen?
    i split my policies in 3 categories (vinyl large / vinyl small, cd, tape / all formats) and clicked all relevant countries to ship. info on top page noted: you ship to 143 countries and all policies are green flagged. after refresh the site the info noted: you ship to 11 countries and the policies are not complete. i’ve done these now a couple of times and allways the same b**ls**t. it seems discogs need no more sellers :/

  • Sep 18,2020 at 04:31

    This is very disappointing. Just took my inventory offline. Why change something that’s been working great since forever? I’m all for innovation and progress but I can’t get my head around how this should improve the “Discogs experience” for buyers and sellers.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 04:22

    I close my shop on October 01 – and I will also stop buying.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:54

    I hope everybody boycotts this shit and forces dc to think it over. my english isn’t too bad but I spent an hour NOT being able to set this shipping policy bull up – not even for my own country.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:53

    Classic case of ‘Gentrification’

    dearest Discogs bods please be aware, the thousands of free thinking people( yes, people not numbers) who collectively built Discogs from nothing much, from little acorns grow, with passion, creativity and a wealth of knowledge will continue leave on mass, as you demand more and more our conformity we will sadly leave taking our passion and knowledge away with us. Priced out of the market by ‘hipster boomers’ who don’t even own a record player but recognise s trend when they see one……dear mr Discogs Dude, please please please listen to what my vinyl comrades are telling you, if you continue down this path it will not end well for any of us here, and like many have said including the messages you are routinely deleting, any idiot can set up a system create a platform but it takes an army of vinyl obsessed freaks to make it interesting.

    Peace Out🤟

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:45

    This is really insane! Very complex and mental operation. Both sellers and buyers are fine with the present solution. Every time I sell a record I personally contact the buyer and we agree with the shipping cost. I’ve been selling for more than five years and not a single problem occurred about this.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:26

    Let people do all the work for you letting them think they are part of a community. Man, I can’t believe I got trapped into this. Discogs turns out to be a wolf in sheep clothes. A greedy wolf that sells it’s soul to the devil with no problem. And people notice!!! PayPal does NOT return any of the fees when you have to refund. Another greedy company that makes you depend an when the job is finished collects. Just like Discogs. A match made in hell.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:13

    This shipping policy obviously doesn’t care about how many nations’ mail systems work. As someone else said, there are mail systems using weight, length, width and thickness to calculate the shipping price. I tried implementing this with the new policy but it’s a nightmare just to set the prices for my country, plus I really want people to choose to pay via bank transfer too if they want to (I only had one buyer paying with this option but it was as easy as using paypal). This system is good for big sellers who can offer discounted/flat prices, but as a normal collector myself selling just a few of my items, I have to charge the buyer the correct shipping price, so yeah, guess all my listings will move to ebay, it was good while it lasted.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:06

    I’m gonna add my voice to the chorus of disapproval. Come October 1st, after 11 years of buying & selling with no real problems, I’m done.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 03:02

    That’s the point! The value from this website was made by music fans who took their free time to fill this complex giant database over the years. – Now things are ruled by PP, a global ripp off bank (who always needs to grow to satisfy their investors).

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:59

    My comment criticizing this move was deleted. Discogs deletes comments they deem inappropriate. This is censorship.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:58

    I have been selling on Discogs since 2007 and have maintained 100% positive seller feedback. From Oct 1st I will be taking my business elsewhere (Music Stack, eBay) as the new mandatory shipping policy is too difficult to set up. I guarantee Discogs will not reply to this comment or review its decision to forcibly impose its unfathomable policy. Bye bye Discogs, it was fun while it was fun before you ruined it for sellers.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:51

    What a sick mind has come up with this rubbish?

    Guess Discogs will still serve as a fairly complex database (which the users built) as from 1st October… and that is it!

    At least I shall say good-by as a customer and shall sell my records on the ebays, musicstack, cdandlp, and the like from this day on.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:50

    This is ridiculous…

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:37

    How is it that this is being implemented in such a half arsed manner. Surely you would look at what every other platform does and make sure you create somehting that is simple, helpful and intuative for buyers and sellers.Or not in this case. Last person out please turn the lights off.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:35

    Too bad discogs … I’m switching to Ebay. Bye

  • Sep 18,2020 at 02:24

    So we have been ‘used’ to build the database and now we are mistreated like this??? What a poor and offensive decision. Discogs really needs to reconsider…

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:41

    wow, thats such bullshit with the new policy.. i think i will just stop selling on discogs and switch to musicstack and ebay

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:23

    Canuck Audio Mart and US Audio Mart, here I come!!!

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:22

    This is madness. I can’t spare the time to go through the various permutations. I send packages all of the world of different weights and sizes and use the Royal Mail’s rates, what’s wrong with that? Why can’t I just tick a box somewhere that says that and it will cover everything. I also will only be using discogs as a data base after 1st October. If I register as a new seller after 1st October will that be easier? Remains to be seen.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:21

    CRAZY, BYE BYE DISCOGS, HELLO EBAY

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:06

    Everybody will overestimate shipping to be sure to avoid any surprise. So impact will be an increase of shipping cost for buyers. You will have an increase of claims because buyer will ask to get refund of shipping price difference and I am quite sure that only few seller will play a fair game. Personally as buyer I am afraid of shipping cost increase and, as seller, I have removed all my items for sale. Wait and see …

  • Sep 18,2020 at 01:05

    So, until further stupid rules & regulations, Discogs will become a very good database of records and the like.
    Do remind in the mean time that your readers have made this a good database. You only gave the tool.
    Dont f* us.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 00:41

    Really Discogs? Really?

  • Sep 18,2020 at 00:34

    This is a total ignorance of the idea of a global community. What is the motivation behind this hostile action against collectors and smaller vendors who want to trade worldwide? Especially in times of Corona with constantly changing shipping restrictions. This is a database, created by the community and now you’re messing with us. I beg you: stop this immediately, the previous shipping conditions were okay.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 00:33

    I won’t be doing this. Count me out.

  • Sep 18,2020 at 00:17

    After 12 years as one of my favourite sites, it seems now that from 1/10/20 I will use discogs only for informative reasons, and NOT as a marketplace. Congrats, you did it. Lets see how long will you last now.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 23:51

    Discogs also need to inform buyers of the new across the board shipping policies system. I keep getting buyers not advancing to the payment page, waiting for an invoice which they don’t seem to get. So, I have to inform them of the new system.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 23:42

    discogs sollte sich einen anderen Bezahldienst wie PayPal suchen. Ich muss hier nicht unbedingt verkaufen. Meine Erfahrungen mit PayPal in der Vergangenheit reichen mir.
    Die Versandrichtlinien sind völlig unrealistisch. Ich habe noch nie Beschwerden bekommen und immer versucht die günstigste Versandart anzubieten. Der Markt sollte boykottiert werden bis discogs die Regelung zurücknimmt. Geld im scheiß Kaptitalismus ist eben alles.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 23:36

    15 years of selling here and 21,000 records listed on average. I hate that I may have to pull my stock off the site. I offer free shipping for $25 and over orders within my country. My customers know they get deals this way. This is too much to add to the already stress the world is giving. Looks like Ebay is about to get think with vinyl again.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 23:27

    This is a complete disaster. This is you guys giving it all for the professional sellers and leaving all the rest of us behind. This tool lacks just about everything! Norwegian post prices are based on weight, length, widt AND thickness of a shipment, how do I calculate that in? What about singles, the difference between digipaks and jewel cases, people who want to buy 16 cds without the jewel cases, but some of them are digipaks…? Registered mail is based on geography as well! And so it goes… There are so many flaws here! Since you introduced this I have also noticed that so many releases now are unavailable for me to buy now, obviously because of the hassle of this. So I buy a lot less cds via Discogs, was that really the point here?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 23:13

    I’m a fool!, I just took off all my ebay listings and put them on discogs, NOW I have to put them all back on ebay and close my shop here. Message to discogs, I really did try to use the new ASP but it is unworkable. So my measly 600+ listings will no longer be available here. Who built this site anyway?, US!. Goodbye.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 22:26

    I think I will also quit, I really don’t feel like this.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 21:56

    😄this is mental.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 21:27

    This complex shipping agreement driving me round the bend Oct 1 will come and go with a lot of people not changed .
    The postage is only set from one country,To post a single in the Uk has 4 different methods for the Uk only.First class ,economy,Signed for,Insured
    Can’t do that on this new shipping policy.Its also going to confuse buyers.
    Sad to see it’s all about the money throughput.
    Who bought Discogs???

  • Sep 17,2020 at 20:15

    I’m waiting and hoping that discogs comes to its senses.

    I do understand what discogs is trying to do — it’s nice for a buyer to know shipping charges in advance. But this complicated system is not an appropriate solution for a minor or non-existent problem. I buy more than I sell, and waiting for a shipping cost has never been a problem as discogs sellers respond very quickly.

    If worse comes to worse, maybe I’ll just set up domestic shipping of single items as that is most of my sales, and let international shipping go.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 19:35

    It looks like I will have to stop selling on discogs too.

    Maybe I will have to sell to local buyers only so 95 percent of my other sales are gone.

    I’m definitely not going to spend hours and hours trying to figure out every possible selling scenario.

    I’m extremely disappointed in discogs now.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 19:28

    Count me out, I guess. Bye discogs.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 19:06

    Hmm, looks like discogs wants to run their own business into the ground. I am a buyer, not a seller, but after October 1 I won’t be buying from here due to this moronic/greedy policy change. There are many other places to buy music from on the ‘net (and, no, I’m not talking about ebay or Amazon). It’s a shame because there are a lot of honest, hard-working sellers on here who I have bought from from all over the world, but discogs has shot itself in the proverbial foot.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 18:59

    If you look at:
    https://blog.discogs.com/en/top-30-most-expensive-items-sold-in-discogs-marketplace-for-june-2020/

    DiscPal collected approx ~$4,350 in fees for those alone. It would be interesting to compare this with the months following the introduction of ASP’s.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 18:38

    I had a great run and looks like coming to an end. My buyers are from all over the world and how can I setup the rate? They love to contact me as I always quote them the alternate options for shipping with the accurate rates. Whoever came up with this stupid idea is killing this site immediately. You will lose a lot of sellers and businesses starting on October 1. I cannot do comply as I do not agree. Bye bye.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 17:48

    With all the upheaval in shipping, why is Discogs making this even more difficult? The interface is terrible.

    How about putting a few dollars into developing useful tools for sellers and buyers instead of mandatory useless policies? Why can’t a seller easily discount their stock for a short-term sale? Why do we need to see want list emails with the same overpriced sellers every week? Why doesn’t Discogs actually listen to seller & buyer comments and requests?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 17:03

    You got your wish. I just deleted all my listings. Good riddance to greedy rubbish.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 16:50

    Lets all go to Ebay, there a person can pay with bank or credit card and is not depending on this terrible Paypal.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 16:50

    I have Aperger syndrome. Selling here is my only job.
    Your policy is useless. The sales were already low because of covid-19. Some of us had to back out from selling International. Now this?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 16:34

    TL;DR Not worth the hassle. Its been a fun 10 years selling, but no more 10% for you Discogs.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 16:15

    Hey Folks,

    stop asking Discogs why they are doing all this. They will never give you an honest answer. They lie about their motives in their fancy styled blogs and afterwards, as you see, they prefer to not answer at all to any of our complaints. On the contrary, they even deleted more than 300 negative outraged comments from this thread in order to make it appear as if there was less resistance against their horrendous decisions

    Understand: Discogs has completly lost the touch to its base. We are not interesting for them at all! They do not care the least! They impose central commitee decisions on you and tolerate no dissent because they think they are in the position to simply do it. „Obey or fuck off“- thats what they are saying to you, to us, who have built that site with our contributions. Get that finally.

    But I can tell you who and what discogs does care for: It’s Paypal and money. Money squeezed out of its sellers through unfair and enforced means.

    To remind you again: This whole compulsory shipping editor thing is just the necessary tool they have decided to use to make sure each and every payment of the discogs marketplace is made through their new greedy and exclusive „partner“ paypal! EVERYTHING IS DONE ONLY TO INCORPORATE PAYPAL INTO DISCOGS. BECOMING DISCPAL OR BETTER THE DISCPAL MONSTER.

    As I already explained: Up til now an estimated 30% or likely even more of the payments in the discogs marketplace are made through other payment options than paypal. Especially in Europe. Discogs and paypal, who have decided to team up, see the potential of revenue they can generate by forcing everybody to use paypal. And how can they make sure that everybody will exclusively use paypal? Very easy: By introducing a mandatory automated shipping calculator with discogs fees being directly collected from each single transaction checkout through paypal. And discogs has publicly announced that there will be no seperate monthly discogs invoices anymore. All discogs fees will be collected by paypal through each individual transaction in the marketplace.

    Discogs knows very well that the shipping calculator does not work properly and that it is not properly manageable for sellers without being incorrect and making losses and having a lot lot lot of hassle. But in their big corporate reasoning thats acceptable and in parts also wanted by them since it’s still a win-win-situation for discpal. There will be many cancellations and additional payments and for each of them the discpal monster earns additional dirty money. In addition to the 30% or more of payments that they plan to have come in through paypal.

    Those of us who can afford it should leave the platform. Discogs is not discogs anymore. It has become the AUTHORITARIAN DISCPAL MONSTER.

    Every other seller with some self respect who denies being a slave and who denies being oppressed by the new discpal monster should at least refuse setting up the enforced shipping system by October 1st. If that means your listings will be made unavailable, so be it. The least you can do is to let discogs feel for some weeks what the cost will be to try to subjugate the community. The only language the new authoritarian discpal monster understands is MONEY. And every seller has the power to contribute to a really really large chunk of money that will be lost to the discpal monster.

    It may not be easy for some medium or bigger sellers to loose on their discogs income for a couple of weeks but be strong and go sell your stuff elsewhere in October. Lets make Octiber the month of protest. Although its of course not perfect, go sell a round in ebay or wherever. Every platform that does not try to enforce central commitee dictates over their community is better than the discpal monster.

    Lets see how the discpal monster will react when it feels a big financial loss by the end of October. It will surely awake and react faster than through our endless pleadings and gentle appeals. Maybe it will then come to the conclusion that the only way to save itself is to metamorphose back from the discpal monster into discogs again. And then we can maybe give discogs a new chance again in November.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 16:05

    Total shit show. So I guess now is the perfect time for you and PayPal to exploit your sellers when their most vulnerable, as their other avenues to sell product has disappeared this year due to covid. Nobody is going to conform to these policies, if they can even begin to figure them out. So if you still wish to rake in the money you are, due to your sellers need to sell product SOMEWHERE this year, I would strongly urge you to NOT implement this convoluted, archaic shipping policy. I will not. Please think about the sellers and customers who use your platform for a change. We will ALL be better off for it.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:59

    Just close all shops on October 1st and Discogs will have to back paddle.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:37

    Dear Discogs bods, you were there for me when covid came around, I had to’Shut up Shop’seriously, the sales I made with you helped me to pay the rent on a closed physical record shop until it was safe to open again, I thank you for that.

    It is a near certainty that things could well get worse, that this pandemic will spike again and again, as our politicians scratch there arses and some speak out of them, sone of us have turned our heads towards online sales more so as direct response to covid, but you know this already, you know financially things are up in the air for everyone for the foreseeable future, yet you continue to demand conformity, conformity to a flawed system and at possibly the worst time ever..surely this needs to be looked at again in these unprecedented and uncertain times.listen to the sellers here ffs, I will be one of the little guys who has to pack up and leave…..in short your timing sucks discogs bods nice knowing you
    kind regards curated.crap

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:32

    Floods, Covid, fires, new Discogs policy…. tough year (….+ looming election). Am I smelling 4 horsemen?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:28

    This is cold, the database we created, it undermines everything the site and the community stood for. I won’t look at Discogs the same way again and regret all my input into building the database.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:24

    how about multiple shipping policies for 1 country? postage rates is depend on the zip(distance) from the seller’s location

  • Sep 17,2020 at 15:17

    I feel compelled to once again voice my opinion I VEHEMENTLY opposed the madness known as The New ASP

  • Sep 17,2020 at 14:45

    I have to despair as well. My previous policy for my local country specified costs by weight (for every format), as that is how the post office calculates things. This worked without issue until now where, without me changing anything, it says “This shipping policy is missing a shipping method that covers all Order sizes and Order values”. So what? I charge by weight, who cares what the order value is or how big?
    The result of this is now that none of my items are available in my local country.
    STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
    STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
    STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 14:39

    and the worse!! we created the database of discogs!!! not them!! i’ve forgot to say this, because our job they win money and we are fu..ked! now they put the dog necklace to us…

  • Sep 17,2020 at 14:35

    I’ve been fucked many times, by the shipping policies that i did, (wrongly) i should assum the error and swallow it to avoid a possible negative feedback. answer of discogs,, revise your shipping policies, pure crap!,they don’t take care of sellers. i’m not happy with this, for the moment, i’m considering it, my sales this month reduced. let’s see what happens next month, but i think less or the same more or less..just messages and messages and NO solutions. the option of shipping costs, without jewelcase (cd’s) is lost, no options for the buyers to make it more easy and help them to save in shipping costs.now buyers are charged for a shipping costs that can be less…. as always is the problem of the sellers, depending countries is more cheap or more expensive the post, courrier etc, so less options to sale = less money… less commisions for them. totally BAD!

  • Sep 17,2020 at 14:03

    This is the end of Discogs as we know it. As a hobby Seller, and a serious Buyer, these confusing-as-hell, nonsense requirements are an insult, and apparently the thousands of people who have supported Discogs thus far think the same. Do the powers that be read or care about these zillions of negative responses??!!?? It’s been fun. But I’ll sell and buy elsewhere as of October 1st unless this idiocy is retracted by Discogs.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:54

    Fuck this, looks like i’ll be doing all my selling on eBay. All of this is about as clear as a glass of mud.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:53

    This is a horrible idea. I will no longer ship internationally.

    Before, I would get an order, and charge the buyer the actual/real shipping cost that I looked up that day of purchase. There is no way I am taking the chance on losing money on shipping for a $5 sale.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:51

    lot of comments and valid questions on here and on the forum and not one reply from staff at discogs and you bet they are justifying this change as ‘customer service’ but here are ‘customers’ commenting, im mainly a buyer and sometimes a seller, a lot of us are, thats why we like it here, the approach of discogs here illustrates that it is only about money it is not about music it is not about community – sadly i now hope that discogs dies and something else appears

    money money money…..root of all evil

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:43

    Absolute STRAIGHT FUCKING GARBAGE. GO fuck yourselves.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:40

    Hello
    there seems to be widespread confusion over this new policy.
    1. is paypal mandatory?
    2. will each order be charged the “discogs fee” including the shipping costs now?
    3. will paypal charge me the seller fees and pay them to discogs?
    4. will i still have business with discogs when i sell here or will paypal manage the discogs fees entirely?
    5. will i be able to edit shipping costs after an item is bought?
    6. where are these endless questions answered @discogs

    i have been a member here since 2008 and could be tempted to stay but .. the alternatives for small sellers are endless..

    What the hell is this deal you have with PayPal ?! R U Sirius PAYPAL!?!?!?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:34

    This is total nonsense, I’ve been selling on this platform for 4 years and I’ve never had a problem with shipping. Items differ in weight and sizes some records have very thick cardboard covers and others don’t, there are double and triple vinyls, 180gram, 200gram, etc… Not to mention gatefolds and tri-fold covers. Everything is clearly explained on my seller terms and I have been doing very fine since I started selling on Discogs. I really don’t understand why they are bothering us with this pointless nonsense.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:30

    Can someone answer a question I don’t seem to see addressed in any of the communications from Discogs on this new policy.

    Once we have set up a one rate for all formats/quantities option, is that the only choice available to a buyer, or will they still have the option of:

    A: Picking a more specific rate we have identified (i.e. Media Mail for one CD)

    B: waiting for a shipping amount to be determined by seller based on the weight/destination (all of our Int’l orders which has NEVER been an issue in almost years of selling here)

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:27

    Farewell Discogs.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:26

    I can’t stop laughing over the comment posted by xxbyaaahxx.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:22

    Can we limit the number of items an international buyer can choose in each order? Otherwise I can’t control the upper reaches of the weight/cost equation so I can’t automate the shipping cost.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:21

    shellac is gone [u=MoldyFigRecords]. this is problematic for me as well. shipping 78s is different than shipping ANY other format, and yet it’s been removed as an option in shipping settings.

    and i don’t really see many people being happy about this.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:19

    What idea is this? What is the intention?
    Mail services are updating their prices every other week.
    I’m not doing anything, it’s just not viable nor functional. Therefore i’ll be leaving Discogs, which is sad but i have no other choice.
    Sorry guys!
    Cheers to you all and God Speed.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:18

    I already have a shipping policy…

    It is not complete…

    Discogs shipping editor is not granular enough…

    I don’t ship a lot of 78’s, 8 tracks, minidiscs, reel to reel, Beta video tapes and other odd formats. They are available for sale on discogs, but have no option in the editor. But sellers have to make it work?!?!?

    Shipping by weight is absurd. Too big of a problem with mixed media orders, box sets and fragile items. That is exceedingly compounded when shipping internationally. I might as well turn off international orders as it will cost me money. Or screw them with excessive fees. Both options are unfair.

    Bad policy forced on poorly programmed platform. There are plenty of problems that need to be addressed first.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:11

    I am sorry but this new system has not been thought through properly at all. How can you have a shipping policy that covers all formats ? Let’s say 3cds weigh the same as one LP , but the size is totally different and so are the shipping costs (at least here in Germany ) .I have been selling via discogs for over 5 years and have never had any problems with shippings
    costs because they are clearly laid out in my seller terms .
    These new shipping policies might sound good in theory but are impossible to put into practice

  • Sep 17,2020 at 13:07

    This really is quite the dismal development. I don’t even know how many years I’ve been on here as a seller and, originally, as a sometime contributor, but it’s a long time. And that’s as both Smallfish Records and now just Remote_. Not once have I had an issue with sorting out shipping with a customer as it’s rarely a flat rate and things have to be taken into consideration with each order.

    This really seems to be geared towards larger marketplace stores who sell any old crap in bulk as you simply can’t tailor the shipping for the wide range of formats, combinations and weights to any sensible degree. It seems that you have to have a policy for any conceivable combination of items and that, quite simply, is ridiculous.

    I’ve had a cursory glance and play with the editor but as far as I can see it’s virtually unusable – and I say this as someone who had to set up something similar to this way back when on the Smallfish site. That was a breeze compared to this absolute fiasco of a system.

    No chance in hell I’m setting it up – it’s pointless and at odds with the entire ethos of how Discogs grew. And if my inventory isn’t available on site come 1st October, then so be it. As others will I’ll find a new avenue.

    You want to be corporate? Fine. But that’s exactly why I won’t be along for the ride any more.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:57

    Large vinyl or small vinyl? Assuming large means 12″ and small 7″ but when I add shipping price for small vinyl all my 7″ listings only show the (All Other) shipping price.

    This is a complete farce!

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:52

    So the only way I found to get a “complete shipping” policy for one region is to add a “flat rate” of $100 to “all formats”. Ridiculous. ($100 to make sure nobody selects it.)

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:51

    I set up all my policies a few weeks ago.
    So, now I have to revise them.

    I just repeated the 1500g net total (which fits in 2kg) as that amount per 1500g, which means the person ordering will get 2 parcels. No way to work out anything better than that as there are just too many variables.

    I’ll add a not to my seller terms stating that if the shipping policy calculation isn’t correct I may require extra payment, or will refund where there is a considerable overcharge.

    But, in a world where most orders are 1 CD or 1 LP, this is all a bit “overkill” isn’t it?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:45

    Yeah, I’m not doing this, and will be closing my store.

    Absolutely terrible idea, and we can all see the real reason for this is to put more money in the pocket of paypal.

    See ya.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:44

    not. good.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:43

    I felt confortable by sending exact invoices depending on numbers of items and values. My feedbacks are 100% positive. Even doe, I tryed anyway to set up shipping policies. It’s very complicated and these shipping policies don’t work and are not complete. There is no Registrated Options anymore, and there is NO WAY to me to ship valuable orders without any registration. Maybe these shipping options are only meant for USA sellers, but for the european seller that I am, this is just a pain in the a**. As many others, I’m not sure to continue business with Discogs. This is very unfair for the whole community that worked hard on building the database …

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:43

    Wrong options for shipping: where is Signed-For, Tracked, Int. Signed-For, Int. Tracked. None of this is the same like their (Standard,Economy or Express). Parcels are mostly limited to 2 kg, how you can set up unlimited weight in “all formats”? After all hard job we did for this site they r threatening to make our listings “invisible”. Reminding me to set up policies, I had them set up and thanks to changes- removing “shellac format”- 200 of my listings is without posting price.
    Is fees taken by PPal will change, rise, should I log-in to PPal to check amount of fee every time . I can discuss problems at eBay, who I can talk here? Nobody answers this comments…
    It looks to me like greed is behind all of this.
    They are killing what was the best at Discogs, freedom in trading, freedom of choices.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:42

    What the fuck is all this shit, i can’t even understand what they mean and it looks like way too much work. If i don’t do anything, does that mean that i can’t sell anymore? Can somebody please explain to me in simple language?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:38

    To be honest, I do not see myself spending time to get though the whole set up process for shipping policies for every possible order (format, Region etc.). especially during the Corona situation it is not completely determinable as shipping rates get changed or shipping to certain countries will be stopped completely and restarted at a later point which is difficult to monitor for each and every country where I would possibly sell my items. Especvially when it comes to having a policy for everything from a single tape to a large parcel with about 10 records or more from domestic to worldwide shipping.
    Also, I have not yet had a single cancelled order due to my current “shipping policy”. Hence, if discogs is going to block me from selling I assume they do not need my fees and therefore I may move to another website to sell my stuff.
    For the time being I will also stop contributing to the database.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:37

    I can’t believe this is happening! Ever hear of “if it ain’t broke , don’t fix it”? I had no trouble with my shipping policies before this CUMBERSOME BS . I guess I’m bowing out then. What a shame! It was good here but now it makes zero sense to stay.

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:25

    Discogs was a great site, but this change is plain bullocks. My shipping policies were ok, covering the whole world and most of my items. Only very few times I needed to manually adjust shippingcosts. But now one overall shipping policy for all formats, values and quantities? What accountant thought that up? I won’t set it up. If my items become unavailable, then goodbye discogs!

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:18

    By seeing how you mismanaged totally Canada Post, on first of october I stop selling in a site that abuse me for volunteer, and people kept adding things. Conviviality is lost after seeing what you offer as shipping policy. If I can’t deal with 35 to 50 % of my sales, I have no time to lose

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:15

    I cannot figure out how to do this correctly, so i guess that’s it for Discogs….?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:14

    This is some BS… I wouldnt mind so much if your policy tool wasnt so effin complicated and and ridiculous.
    Do the guys who designed this even sell and ship records themselves??!

  • Sep 17,2020 at 12:02

    Ya’ll can get fucked with this stupid move. I won’t be setting this up at all. If you choose to make my items invisible, I’ll just find somewhere new to sell that doesn’t force its users into bullshit limitations.

    What’re you gonna do when you’re taking 10% of fuck all?!?

  • Sep 17,2020 at 01:38

    Enclosed is a small “excerpt” from the discogs central corporate values. Let’s see when these will be changed…

    Central corporate values
    Passion for music
    We share a passion for listening to music, making music and/or studying it.

    Teamwork
    We are all part of a successful team that works at eye level; we treat each other openly and respectfully.

    Community
    Discogs is a project that would not be possible without a large community of music-obsessed people with a common goal.

  • Sep 16,2020 at 15:37

    After seeing the tool,It’s not just wrong, it is without knowledge what is shipping, the diverse mail broker or other things, and how many companies change their ways at certain weight and dimension. All Formats is an infamy just for that

  • Sep 16,2020 at 08:17

    If they imagine you can mix fragile shellac records in parcel with different formats set they greed with all formats, write that items from 1 gr to 2 gr -posting will costs £10000.00, and up from 3gr it’s 100000.00 this greedy system will show you green :”This policy is complete!”, congrats, and buyers wouldn’t care to bother their all formats.
    Problem you don’t see: Change of policies is probably just cover up for deal with PPal to take your money with every transaction, PPal always charge for full amount, no explanation how this will change

  • Sep 15,2020 at 14:18

    I’m starting to delete the items I have listed for sale. I will sell it as a whole on Ebay. So, anybody who might be interested in my inventory – please check it within the next days, contact me and I will send you later a link to the ebay auction.

  • Sep 15,2020 at 06:22

    Today I stumbled upon another thing. Paypal will collect the Discogs fees directly from the payment. In the Discogs invoice visible on Paypal item price and shipping costs are not separated, just the total.
    Does that mean Discogs fees change from a fee for the item price to a fee for the total???
    This would mean a large fee increase through the backdoor without announcement.
    I had a look at the blog entries for the changes and couldn’t find any answer to that essential question.

  • Sep 15,2020 at 04:05

    Here’s one more comment by one more seller stating how utterly unworkable the new policy is.

    I always offer different shipping options to customers, and considering records don’t have standardized weight nor do mailers, the ASP tool is ill-adapted to the reality of selling records here.

    1 hour on the ASP tool and it’s clear how limited it is.

    The huge sellers with thousands and thousands of records in stock might benefit from this but it’s a huge disservice to smaller buyers and frankly I will not hesitate to set up shop elsewhere if I notice a decrease in sales in the next few months.

  • Sep 15,2020 at 02:09

    I spent hours diligently setting the shipping costs, after a week sales reduction of 40% and in the evening I receive an order from Japan without shipping costs, regarding my settings and I see that there is absolutely no Free Shipping, made the Refund to the Customer (remitting us the Paypal Rate) and deleted all the Settings made. Perhaps a working program had to be created before imposing such a radical change.
    if in October it will block my sales with no shipping rates set, I’m sorry but I’ll close the shop

  • Sep 14,2020 at 20:15

    I feel like I can make this work by weight. However, as a US seller, I feel like ASP decreases the benefits that I can give to my customers. For instance, from what I can see, a shipping policy has to go up to unlimited. However, first-class mail goes up to 1 lb. I was hoping that I could offer first-class shipping for US customers up to 1 lb. and then switch to media mail above 1 lb. From what I see, though, I can’t do it; I need to offer either priority or media mail. Priority mail for one or two CDs is overkill, and slower media mail is nearly the same cost as faster first class.

  • Sep 14,2020 at 19:30

    This policy is a needless pain in the ASS. These shipping policies will not only make it harder to sell but will force many of us small sellers to raise shipping costs or stop selling all together. It will definitely S—L—O—W international shipping and trade in the marketplace.

  • Sep 14,2020 at 15:57

    To everyone that still has not understood what this is all about.

    Its very simple. Up til now an estimated 25% or 30% or likely even more of the payments in the discogs marketplace are made through other payment options than paypal. Especially in Europe. Discogs and paypal, who have decided to team up, see the potential of revenue they can generate by forcing everybody to use paypal. And how can they make sure that everybody will exclusively use paypal? Very easy: By introducing a mandatory automated shipping calculator with discogs fees being directly collected from each single transaction checkout through paypal. And discogs has publicly announced that there will be no seperate monthly discogs invoices anymore. All discogs fees will be collected by paypal through each individual transaction in the marketplace.

    Discogs knows very well that the shipping calculator does not work properly and that it is not properly manageable for sellers without being incorrect and making losses and having a lot lot lot of hassle. But in their big corporate reasoning thats acceptable and in parts also wanted by them since it’s still a win-win-situation for discpal. Because as already mentioned in many comments sellers are to a large extent forced by the shipping calculator to either undercharge or overcharge their shipping costs. Thus, there will be countless refunds and additional payments that will become necessary and each payment flushes extra revenue in the greedy gorge of discpal since paypal of course charges fees for each single payment and refund. And in case a seller heavy-heartedly decides to take on the losses of an undercharged shipping on himself thats also fine for discpal. And if the seller decides not to refund an overpayment in shipping costs to the buyer thats also a gain for them since more money has run into the paypal machine which means more revenue through fees. This „technically gained“ extra money adds up to the 25% or 30% or more of payments that will then come in through paypal instead of the various other payment options that are still used up to now.

    A nice and particularily dirty chunk of money that discpal wants to suck in thereby capitalizing upon the cost and well being of their buyers and sellers.

    Surely discpal has calculated that there will be a bit of resistance by sellers and buyers in the beginning and that several most likely smaller sellers and buyers will leave discogs due to their new policies. But by doing the maths they are sure that after some losses and turmoil in the beginning they will make a lot of profit in the long term by forcing everybody into paypal and the automated shipping policies.

    Hopefully, they have underestimated the integrity and morale of the discogs community. Its upon the discogs community to find an answer to this. Either by leaving, going on strike or not complying at least in the beginning.

    By the way: Would discogs please stop fabricating phony and invented motives and be so bold and honest enough to finally admit that this is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth behind the mandatory Automated Shipping Policies? Would be a first step of remorse and accountabillity.

  • Sep 14,2020 at 14:35

    So this is bad, yeah? I’ve always had my listing with postage, it’s a ball ache, it’s hard to use and certainly not for the faint hearted and then I’ve since found that VHS Videos are not able to get shipping attached to it because there is no catalogue/listing for VHS Videos, only DVDs/Blue Ray, go figure?

    All in all, Discogs, you have killed the very thing we love, this started as a great thing and now is looking like a monster out of control, not for the sometimes seller but for the buyer. Beware, if no one is listening, then no one can buy and that when the trouble will start, It is indeed a sad day for Discogs. Think again on this terrible marketing ploy!

  • Sep 14,2020 at 09:11

    thanks discogs for killing everyone’s chance to buy and sell rare records internationally.

  • Sep 14,2020 at 02:22

    Discogs statement: This method should also be without value restrictions (e.g. ‘Order subtotal must be over/at least XX.XX’).
    I use a minimum order requirement. If I set no value restrictions in the shipping policies, it overwrites the set minimum order requirement and it’s possible again to order any kind of values.

  • Sep 14,2020 at 01:53

    Because this is such a hassle, I now ship to only 11 countries (Western Europe mainly, because I know the carriers) instead of 100+. So in the end, less possibilities = less sales probability = less money for you Discogs, you just shot yourselves in the foot. Congratulations !

  • Sep 13,2020 at 17:59

    To point out for everybody, espescially European Sellers, what these new rules actually really would mean for you besides the total hassle with the automated shipping policies: THERE WON’T BE ANY CHANCE ANYMORE FOR ANY EUROPEAN SELLER TO RECEIVE PAYMENTS BY FREE IBAN/BIC BANK TRANSFERS because discogs announced that they will directly take their fees and taxes from the automated paypal checkout that you are forced to accept and won’t send you their monthly invoices anymore. And since discogs surely doesnt accept to loose any of their fees they will surely start to block and prevent any transaction wherein buyer and seller agree for a free bank transfer or any other payment option than their gigantic paypal monopolist. this means a whole bunch of extra paypal fees for every seller that up to now received a certain bigger or smaller percentage of his payments through other payment options than paypal. This adds to the amount of additional paypal fees that automatically amass due to the countless refunds and cancelations that each seller will be confronted with once this corrupt mandatory automated shipping calculator comes into effect.

    This also means that buyers and sellers alike that either cannot (and these are many) or don’t want to offer paypal as a payment method will be excluded and banned from the discogs marketplace. A big discrimination thing! Personally, I guess its illegal to force everybody into paypal. At least it should be against EU-law. But I am no lawyer, perhaps someone else has a better judiciary knowledge?

    It is obvious that paypal and discogs did some maths during their negotiations and realized what an „easy“ and „brilliant“ way this whole thing would be in order to suck of endless money from discogs sellers. Likely they agreed to share the profit of this exploitation of discogs sellers and so you have the result that awaits you from October 1st. TO POINT THINGS OUT VERY CLEARLY: THE AUTOMATED SHIPPING CALCULATOR IS MOST LIKELY JUST THE NECESSARY TOOL FOR THESE TWO COMPANIES TO IMPLEMENT THEIR PLAN OF MAKING A LARGE BARGAIN BY SUCKING IN ENDLESS PAYPAL FEES. We gotta face the truth: This is big corporate soulless reasoning by two soulless companies that give a shit about discogs community, sellers, buyers and contributors.

    What can be done if you oppose all this? You can either leave discogs directly and sell and buy your stuff elsewhere and surely this will happen to a certain extent. Or you could start an organised strike. Or you could simply, silently or openly, agree upon not complying and simply don’t set up these crazy automated shipping policies by October 1st. Lets see what happens. Lets see if discogs really marks items as unavailable if you do not set up the shipping policies. And if they indeed mark them as unavailable: The vast majority of sellers oppose the obligation of the automated system and every day discogs de facto blocks sales of these sellers will hurt them badly. Very badly if enough sellers decide to not comply in the first weeks. Hopefully it will hurt them badly enough that they are forced to skip their ruthless plan and come back to reality

  • Sep 13,2020 at 12:27

    The new shipping policy is a really bad mistake. As a small-time seller of vinyl only, with values from £1 to £500+, having a single postal value does not allow for insurance, courier costs etc. The only way forward would be to go through all my items for sale, and increase the costs of any requiring non-standard posting – that is ludicrous. As others have indicated too, I will be reducing the list of countries I sell to from worldwide to Western Europe only initially and if that doesn’t work I’ll take my vinyl elsewhere. I’m pretty much decided I’ll take anything valued at £20 plus of Discogs altogether, as I’ll end up losing money.

    Having worked in the IT industry I will say this is a terrible way to deliver a project – it undermines sellers financially, will force sellers to minimise the regions they sell to, and you guys will lose money. Which part of this do you see as a positive?

    It’s not too late to reconsider and improve this – do it please!

  • Sep 13,2020 at 10:08

    This policy is unworkable for a UK seller that has to set shipping by weight AND volume.
    What happens when I have an order for a cassette, two 12″s, and four CDs, how does your shipping policy cope with that?
    Clearly this has not been thought through for your entire community.

  • Sep 13,2020 at 07:26

    Whoever set up these absurd and insane policies obviously does NOT sell records/CD’s..This is quite clear because they have NO idea of the hundreds of combinations that are required to cover every possible order or the inordinate hours needed to try and make a non workable system work..

    I can’t believe that big organization like Discogs is unable to work out the results of FORCING this policy on it’s members..

    A lot of us will be seiously considering leaving..

    Insane!

  • Sep 13,2020 at 01:02

    Yeah, right. We are forced to use use PayPal, and you still allow customers to use a different shipping adress. If an order has to be cancelled because of that, it costs 4,5%, because the PayPal thieves keep that money. And your policy does not work…. A shaped single is not small, like stated in an order a few weeks ago. The difference in shipping costs was over 15 euro. Do you pay back that money? Besides that: You can’t enter all these things for the whole world. What were you thinking when you came up with this idea? You are killing the marketplace. We will only be shipping to a few countries if we have to do this, and we will not be the only one.

  • Sep 12,2020 at 16:28

    Hola, I have worked for a while with the automatic pre-established shipping price system, and I have encountered various problems that forced me to stop using it. I don’t know if Discogs has consulted the vendors before implementing a highly improvable system:
    1.- The weights of the products that have been entered in the database for many years are estimates. When Discogs automatically estimated the weight, it chose a weight many times less than the actual weight. For example, Discogs estimates a weight of 85 grams for a CD, which corresponds to a digipack or single CD. However, most CDs are jewel boxes and weigh more than 100 grams. Between one format or another, the cost of shipping varies considerably.
    2.- The packaging is essential to send a recording in the right conditions; however, its weight is not added at any point in the process to the rest of the order. The package I use to ship an LP weighs approximately 150 grams, I don’t understand why it is not taken into account.
    3.- With these deviations in the weight Discogs automatically issues an invoice that most customers pay immediately with Paypal. They are unaware that you have not intervened in that bill. They think that everything is correct in order and they do not expect – nor do they understand – that I can make changes in the shipping cost that they have already paid.
    4.- After the invoice is issued, it may happen that the weight is not correct and that the cost is higher than the one invoiced to the customer. During this process there is no time for the seller to check the availability and review the status of the products. In these aspects there may also be incidents that entail modifying the conditions of the invoice issued and paid.
    5.- Many sellers work with shipping cost comparators that work with various courier companies to obtain the best price. However, the prices are very variable. The cost of shipping a 1000 gram package can be € 8.00 and in a short time, for unknown reasons it can be worth € 12.00 or that service has been eliminated. In Spain the most stable prices are the national postal company. However, for shipments of less than 1000 grams they are usually more expensive than courier companies. All this will represent an increase in prices and a decrease in sales. In Spain shipping costs are already expensive.
    In short, I propose that improvements be made before forcing an imperfect system to be used.
    Why doesn’t Discogs automatically review the weight of the products that are being sold? Why don’t you distinguish Digipacks from jewels, for example? Why is the weight field not added when a new product is added to the database? Why isn’t a package weight automatically estimated for each order? Why does Discogs, taking advantage of the volume of shipments made through its website, not negotiate a fixed shipping price for the most used routes? Between European countries, for example. This way we would get prices lower than those that the sellers get individually. Why is an automatic process not established for this and the payments for the shipments and the generation of the labels are made on the Discogs platform itself?
    I also think that it should be noted that the invoice is made from estimated weights of the products.
    I hope that all this serves to improve the system and avoid misunderstandings between buyers and sellers. I believe that business benefits should not be the argument for implementing a system that is going to worsen the service that the company and the sellers have been giving correctly to record collectors.
    Regards
    iSa

  • Sep 12,2020 at 05:35

    Basic test, not working:

    Set up a policy just for cd’s.
    – The Netherlands only
    – Minimum value = 0,00
    – Shipping rate by Quantity
    – Cd’s only
    – 1 – 16 = € 4,50
    – 17 – 80 = € 8,50
    – 81 and up = € 1,- per Each 1

    As a new customer, not logged in I put one cd in my cart.
    The Count for this cd is set to 4 (via Edit Inventory).
    The Weight for this cd is 70gr.
    The system shows shipping cost is € 4,50.
    Looks fine, but…

    I put another listing of exactly the same cd in the cart. Same Count/Weight settings. Total based on the Count field is 8. The system shows no shipping cost but tells me “To be determined by seller”.

    Just to be sure the Count field in Edit Inventory is the correct field to use: Buying the same cd with Count = 17 shows shipping cost is € 8,50. Add a second cd: “To be determined by seller”
    Same issue putting in another cd.
    Same issue testing the Weight option.

    I’m not gonna test or setup combinations based on this result.

  • Sep 12,2020 at 04:01

    Count me out as a dirtributor to the database!

  • Sep 12,2020 at 03:21

    I am simply not going to start selling again until this is changed.

  • Sep 12,2020 at 03:06

    These new changes won’t work for me. The only choice is remove my listings on 1st of October. I have to run my record shop without Discogs. Please reconsider!!!

  • Sep 11,2020 at 09:03

    I’m curious as to why this post was edited between Sept. 10 & Sept. 11. Specifically, you removed the following which was at the end of the 1st paragraph:
    “‘Shipping To Be Determined By Seller’ will no longer appear any in the marketplace or in the cart.”
    Obviously, if you are requiring all policies to have “& UP” methods there will no longer be Determined By Seller. So, why remove the line?

  • Sep 11,2020 at 07:00

    Allow me to add my voice to the mass of objections here. It is not possible — even if it were desirable — to calculate and allow for every possible combination of sales for every region in the world. There is no way to implement this without severely impacting both sellers and buyers, and intimately Discogs itself. Please reconsider.

  • Sep 11,2020 at 04:15

    I tried to set up automated shipping policy about 1 month ago.When my next order came, the shipping was not automated.I contacted Discogs support. They said I have no Automated shipping policy set up.Today I tried to set it again.I got an error message saying ” you already have a shipping policy for Entire world”. Still I can not see this (the policies i set up 1 month ago already) anywhere, neither can i make new policies with the new , improved editor. To make a long story short. The system is not working. Please listen to the users this time. This Automated shipping is a very bad idea. Please cancel it. Please.

  • Sep 11,2020 at 00:21

    The first impact is a reduction in sales of 70%, an unmanageable program, before I proposed after a careful evaluation of the weight and size the cheapest option and if the order was big enough a discount on the shipping cost, it was communicated between the seller and Buyer, this was the Added Value compared to other Platforms, unbelievable that the Discogs developers do not understand

  • Sep 10,2020 at 23:57

    Discogs was a community collectors for collectors, database filled with the hard word by collectors.
    Please, this is not going to work for me. There are to many shipping options. Make the Editor an option, not an obligation. To me Discogs is a hobby, not a business. Don’t make me say goodbye.

  • Sep 10,2020 at 17:49

    Watch this site go on the market as soon as October rolls around.

  • Sep 10,2020 at 16:41

    to cover all quantities and weight ranges???!!!Are you nuts??? you want me to expose ALL my listing to every con out there??? What is the garranty discogs gives me for this? NONE!So please get reasonable and change this at least!Otherwise half of the items will be unavailable for ever,trust me…

  • Sep 10,2020 at 15:32

    75% of my total sales are shellac. Yesterday and today I noticed the “postage calculator” is not generating automatic invoices when 78 RPM orders are created by my buyers.
    I tried to fix this but cannot find anyway to select “shellac” as an option. Is this going to be repaired soon?

  • Sep 10,2020 at 14:56

    This was a pain. Here’s what I did for shipping from the US to international: went to https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm#_c341 and found the rates.
    I added rates for price groups 1 (Canada), 2 (Mexico), 3 (Australia, China, Hong Kong, Japan & South Korea) and 5 (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland & United Kingdom)
    For each rate, I set prices by 1-226 grams (1-8 ounces), 227-907 grams (9-32 ounces), 908-1360 grams (33-48 ounces) & 1361 grams and up.

  • Sep 10,2020 at 13:07

    I can’t figure this out at all! I’m in the U.S. it’s mind boggling to try to figure it out. Why, why?? No trouble or problems the old way, what’s the point?

  • Sep 10,2020 at 12:54

    As our discontent comments have been deleted, I repost here my previous reactions.
    Many months ago, one guy from Discogs called me by phone (in French as I am a French non-professional seller, just a music and records lover who manage it’s own collection), to explain me previously all these crappy changes. I will not repeat what has been well described by these 259 posts (in resume, and for a lot of reasons, these changes are a mess and a nightmare), but just want to add my modest voice to this massive opposition. I answered to this French affiliated Discogs guy, why it will be impossible to work that way anymore as a private seller. He considered my answers, and said that it will be heard to set these new rules “as best as possible to fit to all”. Now we discover the brutality of Discogs decision, ruled by obscure reasons, that should not (at evidence) being ruled for sellers and buyers confort.
    So, here are my little statistics, as a private seller. I am selling since 2012 (so 8 years). I paid you 5500 USD, and totalize around 2000 sales.
    So, the point is, why do you think I choose Discogs as my favorite tool to manage my collection ? The answer is, it’s simplicity, the ability to organize things the way it fit the best for me and my buyers, and the feeling to be part of a community which had a little to do with the dictatorship of big business like Amazon or eBay. Now, you want to destroy (by an unilateral decision), what was doing Discogs, the best place to be for a music and record lover like me (like us)
    Like many others “little” sellers, it will be probably “bye-bye Discogs” at the end of September. It will be a hard decision that will be drive by necessity (I can’t simply not fit in your new rules), but also ideology (I don’t want to fit in your new rules).
    So, as many others here, I say
    THINK ABOUT IT ! DO YOU WANT TO LOSE ALL THE “LITTLE SELLERS” WHO BRING YOU LIKE ME THOUSAND OF DOLLARS ?
    Thank you Discogs to answer to all these 260 (and in a couple of days perhaps thousands more) posts above, including of course mine.
    BUT DON’T FORGET THE MAIN POINT. I (WE) WILL LEAVE YOU IN A MONTH, AND WE HAVE THE POWER TO DESTROY WHAT WE CREATE TOGETHER.

  • Sep 10,2020 at 11:50

    “Within your Shipping Policy, you can have as many methods as you like, which can be as granular as you want”: well, this is simply NOT true. A few examples? A parcel with 1 CD can weigh more or less than 100 grams, and in my country (Italy) this makes a HUGE difference as far as shipping costs are concerned. The same happens with the shipping of 1 12″/LP. Considering that most of the buyers order just one item at the time, with this new “improvement” it will be impossible to determine the right shipping costs for most of the orders. Higher, unfair shipping costs means less and less sales, it’s mathematic, believe me. How do you think to solve this?

  • Sep 10,2020 at 10:53

    I am wondering how we handle VHS, memory sticks and the other media types that you do not have in your pull down menu. Will they be greyed out or will that cause all of my items to be greyed out (even though I have a full ASP to cover the media types you have added to the pull down menu)?

  • Sep 10,2020 at 10:49

    So just to be clear… I have a question here.

    I have to set up shipping policies to account for EVERY POSSIBLE ORDER? So, for example, I have to have in place the option for the hypothetical scenario that someone might order every item in my shop? And if I don’t have the option For this hypothetical scenario enabled my items will not be available for purchase? Is this correct?

  • Sep 10,2020 at 09:38

    My mind is boggled by this mandatory change and I’m holding off changing anything in my account in the hopes that you realize this is not even remotely sustainable / achievable for sellers ESPECIALLY given how volatile shipping rates have been for the last few months. Seriously, please read these comments and don’t force us to do this.

  • Sep 10,2020 at 09:27

    Arrivederci Disqualifiedcogs

  • Sep 10,2020 at 08:47

    I think the only way is to boykott Discogs as a marketplace.

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