Recommendations now online
We’ve just turned on a recommendation system which will suggest other releases while viewing a release page. These recommendations are based on user collection data. So you can interpret it as “users who have this release in their collection also have … in their collections”. And we plan to improve this over time by adding more elements to the recommendation algorithm (like ratings).
The recommendations are also customized to your account, so it won’t suggest something that is already in your collection. But you can click the “more” link to toggle between including/excluding items in your collection.
We’re also showing recommendations on some marketplace pages, which works the same way but is restricted to a specific seller’s inventory.
Please post if you have any questions or suggestions for improvement! thanks
[b]UPDATE:[/b] – There is now an option in your preferences to disable the recommendations on release pages.– Thanks for the feedback on the accuracy. We’ll be working on some improvements for the future.
It’s a nice idea, if it was something different being recommended every single time instead of the same first five recommendations over and over (my experience)
The recommendations should only display a given artist and label once, to provide more diversity in the recommendations.
My current recommendation list is filled with 1 label/artist, making it completely useless.
[quote=Jayfive]You cant. There is no way to do it. Teo has not included an ability to turn it off so it seems.[/quote]
Were you Sherlock Holmes in a previous life?
PS you can stop responding to my posts each time. They’re not directed at you
You cant. There is no way to do it. Teo has not included an ability to turn it off so it seems.
At the moment it seems all you can do is block it as per kepe’s advice or stick with it.
Turning it off completely is not currently an option.
[quote=man_traic]how do you switch it off?[/quote]
Yeah, No one is responding…not block the shit feature, how do you [b]switch[/b] it off ?
how do you switch it off?
[quote=teo]The recommendations are also customized to your account, so it won’t suggest something that is already in your collection.[/quote]
not even true – would be true if the master release feature had been implemented beforehand – what the fuck do I need your algorithm recommending me vinyl pressings of stuff I already own on CD and vice versa? this is just ridiculous and a further example of the total lack of project management skills of the people in charge – currently those are wasted programming efforts, just like the collection search function that can’t return more than 50 hits
another feature – another failure
http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/174477
http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/174469
Just in case you thought there might be someone somewhere who doesn’t think this is a bad feature.
[quote=md]The point is that imposing and intrusive features that are not wanted should not be implemented without the option to deactivate them prepared and functioning prior to the feature being launched. Nobody should have to change the way their computer works to get rid of this badly designed feature.[/quote]
Agree – still, thanx again kepe!
[b]What [u]exactly[/u] are recommendations based on, do they vary between complete & correct, correct submissions ? are “needs vote” submissions excluded in this feature ?
It becomes worrying to think that I could be recommended to buy a release that has been voted correct, when it’s not correct, causing more confusion.
Don’t know about other users, but I would like to be recommended something new, and obviously it will be new to the data base [Needs Vote].
If the year is also taken into consideration when recommending a release, that won’t be completely accurate because some releases are voted correct without the releases date.
What about style, a user could have added to the [i][u]correctly voted release[/u][/i] [i]Hard House[/i] or [i]Trance[/i] when in fact the release is more towards [i]Ambient & Downtempo.[/i]
The possibility that I could be recommended total bullshit is there, which questions whether this feature is going to make life easier for me or any other user.
Perhaps, if the recommendation is based on the artist it would be more accurate, but then again I probably know most of the releases from that particular artist.[/b]
[u=teo][b], I think you do care about discogs but fix more urgent problems on the site and stop adding fucking useless features.[/b]
Just in case kepe’s posts get lost in the noise here:
http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/topic/174458#2224563
http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/topic/174458#2224570
No it doesnt turn it off, but its as good as you’re going to get for now.
I want to turn this shit off! So, [u=teo] please implement a checkbox to let people turn that off, this feature is unbearable for me.
[quote=little_alien]Installed Adblock Plus just for this lovely new feature. Thanks teo… Oh and it also took care of that useless bookmark image below the boxes on the right.[/quote]
Too! ;)
Welcome to Discogs
a community-built database of music information. Imagine a site with discographies of all labels, all artists, [b]all cross-referenced[/b].
so how on earth could you imagine this recommendation feature would be useful?
as posted many times above, this is sheer enforced useless clutter. it’s a shame kevin you carry on ignoring useful requests and disbugs, concentrating on obviously sterile annoying features.
[quote=waxHead]2) Or maybe put together a plan to keep users loyal to this site – like moving the current forums over to a bulletin board-like system which is much easier to manage and search through? [/quote]
And would stop newbiews opening a forum every time they want to ask a question or advertise something:
http://www.discogs.com/group/1540
http://www.discogs.com/group/1539
http://www.discogs.com/group/1542
What is the point of disbugs having a votes section when the bugs/features with the most votes are ignored in favour of things like this?
Just added it to Adblock Plus’ Element hiding rules. Excellent add-on and it works fine for this utterly useless feature.
Installed Adblock Plus just for this lovely new feature. Thanks [u=teo]… Oh and it also took care of that useless bookmark image below the boxes on the right.
[quote=jweijde]we now have more clutter and information unrelated to the release on the release page.[/quote]
lol.
As if the menu on the bottom of each page wasn’t enough already, we now have more clutter and information unrelated to the release on the release page. Way to go! Plus I hate it that I have to install additional software to turn the feature off.
Why not have a link like ‘We have xx recommendations for you. Click here to view’, instead of showing them directly.
Seriously, [u=nik] & [u=teo] where are your priorities with? Are you just unwilling to fix bugs or are you incapable to do so? Stop wasting your time with implementing unnecessary features like this one. Why, for example, do we have to wait 1,5 years already for something like the Master Release function? Or an equally long time for something simple as the ampersand bug to be fixed?
So:
1. Start focussing on the real problems on this site
2. Make it possible to disable this
3. Make it a link to a separate page
4. Make it not recommend stuff that’s already in my collection
5. Make it not recommend stuff that’s already in my wantlist
I can’t help but worry that usage of collections might start falling out of vogue due to clear data-mining functions like this.
Maybe I’m paranoid, but if that did happen, submitters who try to coordinate data with other people who own rare items will be among the first to suffer.
[quote=md]Unlike just about every other forum on the internet, if you refresh the page after posting, your post is submitted again. This didn’t use to be the case on Discogs[/quote]
QFT.
[quote=_kerry]I tried the Mozilla add-on but now it blocks all images from Discogs… is this what its suppose to do?
I hope not! I put all lot of work into my scans.
Please tell me I am doing this wrong.
peace[/quote]
[url=http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adblockng5.png]image here[/url]
Tools>Adblock Plus>click the add filter button, then use the code that [u=kepe] gave: discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
May be different on windows, but should be similar enough to work ;)
The further degradation of discogs…
I question just how well liked Raze – Break 4 Love is, because according to the recommendation system it should be a universally liked record. Along with Papua New Guinea & half of Madonna’s career. To think I thought that “Recommendations now online” meant that some recommendations that have been made recently by users have been put into effect. Silly me. Time to go search out an IE7 ad system blocker since there’s probably no point in waiting for a way to turn it off in here.
Discogs has deficiencies and faces much more important challenges that need to be tackled instead of users being told what buy.
The problem is that priorities are not well set, I’m sure I would have appreciated this new feature more if other more [b]important elements[/b] in the site were fixed first.
Can’t remember the last time we actually got something useful out of this site…
[quote=md]Because the programming of the forum software is as bad as the rest of the site’s programming. Unlike just about every other forum on the internet, if you refresh the page after posting, your post is submitted again. This didn’t use to be the case on Discogs, but those who’ve been around for a while longer than you can list many other changes that have been made which weren’t wanted, made using the site harder or less enjoyable, and were put in place while ignoring hundreds of critical bugs or feature requests. [/quote]
Post Of The Day.
Discogs is not what it once was, at least in the eyes of many current users (and many more ex-users/moderators).
Some ideas:
1) Fix some of the major bugs with this site.
2) Or maybe put together a plan to keep users loyal to this site – like moving the current forums over to a bulletin board-like system which is much easier to manage and search through? I still don’t understand why the forums live in the dark ages while features such as this one are getting added throughout the site.
3) And last but definitely not least – consider what your user-base has been saying all along!
I tried the Mozilla add-on but now it blocks all images from Discogs… is this what its suppose to do?
I hope not! I put all lot of work into my scans.
Please tell me I am doing this wrong.
peace
[quote=Kepe]Then add following to blocking rules:
discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
[/quote]
Thank You!
@[u=teo]
stop adding such nonsense to the site
Fix The Bugs:
http://www.discogs.com/disbugs
[quote=Plastic_Demons_4_U]It doesn’t work very well at all even with my eclectic taste in music, when I click on a OMD release it suggests Thriller by Michael “pedophile” Jackson what kind of fucking recommendation is that! [/quote]
^^ Telling me m8, I was searching for child porn earlier, reccomended me Gary fucking Glitter!!!
Not much fucking use is that????
It doesn’t work very well at all even with my eclectic taste in music, when I click on a OMD release it suggests Thriller by Michael “pedophile” Jackson what kind of fucking recommendation is that!
Thanks for the tip about Adblock Plus [u=Kepe], it’s really useful.
I’ve been meaning to install something to block ads anyway and this new “feature” has made me do it!
I know I am lame and use IE, how do I block this junk with IE? I guess we have started the merge from data base to online retailer
[quote=Kepe]Much simpler and faster than even try to add any option to discogs to turn it on/off. [/quote]
And teo won’t have to add any ability to block this feature. Thanks for the heads-up, Kepe!
Oh, and I’ll agree with others – cute feature, but essentially useless for most folks. Sure, some will like to find other similar things without having to browse the forums or ask for suggestions, or look through other people’s collections (my preferred route for finding new items), but I think it would need options to be appealing to more people.
If nothing else, move it below reviews. But I wouldn’t notice now, as I, too, have blocked this extra clutter.
[quote=Kepe]and everything works as it used to be. [/quote]
thanks a bunch
Yeah… but how do you [i]switch it off???[/i]
[quote=man_traic]Yeah, but how do I switch it off?[/quote]
[quote=Kepe]Guys if you want it away.. try this.
On Firefox:
Download Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper – plugin
Then add following to blocking rules:
discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
It works and removes all this shit.[/quote]
PERFECT, THANK YOU [u=KEPE]. …. clutter FTMFL.
Don’t know how much coding that took to implement, but I’m sure the time could’ve been used MUCH MORE WISELY fixing the ever-growing list of disbugs and feature requests. Sorry, [u=teo], but it’s true.
[quote=Kepe]Well as I told before, only thing you need is adblock add-on for firefox. Then add the line I said before to the adblock rules and it’s gone. If you want to see recommendations for some certain release it takes 2 clicks to click ABP icon (=ABP off) and pressing F5 (refress) and they’re there again.
Much simpler and faster than even try to add any option to discogs to turn it on/off. [/quote]
The point is that imposing and intrusive features that are not wanted should not be implemented without the option to deactivate them prepared and functioning prior to the feature being launched. Nobody should have to change the way their computer works to get rid of this badly designed feature.
Well as I told before, only thing you need is adblock add-on for firefox. Then add the line I said before to the adblock rules and it’s gone. If you want to see recommendations for some certain release it takes 2 clicks to click ABP icon (=ABP off) and pressing F5 (refress) and they’re there again.
Much simpler and faster than even try to add any option to discogs to turn it on/off.
It should work similar with IE7. Just gotta install similar add-on there.
Yeah, but how do I switch it off?
[quote=Jayfive]Who is this for? What problem is this the solution to? Why does a database need an extra function to help browsing? Why is time and effort being used on this when the database, submission process and indeed the marketplace is crawling with bugs? Why, when there is a huge list of stuff in disbugs was this given any sort of priority? [/quote]
Hell, it was FUN to design and dammit they just felt like doing it.
You can’t. teo didnt design it to be optional.
That firefox thingy kepe posted does the job fine, sort that out and its back to normal. Its that or put up with it.
Who is this for? What problem is this the solution to? Why does a database need an extra function to help browsing? Why is time and effort being used on this when the database, submission process and indeed the marketplace is crawling with bugs? Why, when there is a huge list of stuff in disbugs was this given any sort of priority?
When exactly was the last time an update to make the database or submission process work better?
And finally, has anyone actually applied for that coding job? And are their any plans to bring in for staff, ffs simfonik desperately needs more manpower if the marketplace is to be managed and policied properly.
How do I turn it off?
Not block it.
Not have it altered so it’s there but shows no notifications
not have it altered so it shows ‘good’ recommendations (Really not bothered)
Not put masking tape on my laptop screen or torn up bits of VHS labels on my eyeballs.
[b][i]How do I just switch it off?[/i][/b]
[quote=Jayfive]Every second spent developing this is a second that couldve been used on the master release function, or the various v4 bugs, or any number of things people need and want.[/quote]
Just another one of many indications that the site’s management holds the user base in complete contempt. Insult to injury.
Already blocked, [u=kepe], any record from my stock is yours for half price :)
Utterly pointless, utterly uncalled for, utter waste of time.
Every second spent developing this is a second that couldve been used on the master release function, or the various v4 bugs, or any number of things people need and want.
I’m gonna block this ASAP.
Totally useless for me, regular user & submitter on this site.
:-(((((((((
[quote=marcelrecords]..am I just lucky?[/quote]
Ask Clint Eastwood
[quote=Kepe]Guys if you want it away.. try this.
On Firefox:
Download Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper – plugin
Then add following to blocking rules:
discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
It works and removes all this shit.[/quote]
Fucking brilliant. I can’t thank you enough!
I used to love the plain look of Discogs.
ehm boys, I don’t see any recommendations anywhere…am I just lucky? where should they be located?
Actually only needs to add discogs.com#DIV(id=recs) to adblock.. doesn’t need that hiding helper. I’m sorry about this. I know it’s morally wrong to help with such a things, but seems I’m not the only want wanting to keep discogs as a pure and currently the best database of records available.
I find the recommendations very lame
for instance when I am looking for
Larry Heard Presents Mr. White* – You Rock Me / The Sun Can’t Compare (Alleviated Records) 12″
I only get UR Maurizio AFX and other useless recommendations instead of oldskool acid, other Alleviated, Chicago stuff or even other Mr Fingers related stuff
ONLY the most wanted and most in collection are recommended instead of some useful deeper stuff
please make it a mix of more oldskool style related and artist related mixed with most owned, wanted that would make it more adventurous and exciting
thanks,
Don’t like it. Would rather see comments above it.
How the F can anyone implement such a thing without a turn-off button? Don’t they want happy customers/users?
[quote=Kepe]Download Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper – plugin
Then add following to blocking rules:
discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
It works and removes all this shit.[/quote]
Thanx! That worked!
Here’s the links to remove it:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
and
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4364
and everything works as it used to be.
So me having [a=Aqua], [a=Aphex Twin] and [a=Heptones, The] in my collection is going to help someone else?
Guys if you want it away.. try this.
On Firefox:
Download Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper – plugin
Then add following to blocking rules:
discogs.com#DIV(id=recs)
It works and removes all this shit.
[quote=md]How do I turn it off. It’s useless to me, clutters the pages and just adds to the slow loading of the site.[/quote]
As above.
It’s only in place to boost sales. The stuff in my wantlist would cost me already a small fortune – I don’t want these recommendations. Give us the chance to turn it off.
And I don’t even start about things that would be much more needed in here.
It’s totally awful and useless at least to me and many others, who know their shit more than average Joe.
I’m browsing some osbcure disco records and it recommends me Saturday Night Fever soundtrack =D WTF. I don’t see any point adding such a feature here.
Slows down almost every page and is really annoying. Right now I’m gonna check if I can put some rules on my Firefox ad-blocker to prevent the shit working.
Only feature I would like to see myself like in rateyourmusic.com is the free discussion/chat assigned to every submission so people can discuss and leave free comments of releases and give some extra information of release and artist that you can’t include otherwise.
[b]How do we turn this off?[/b]
Like, immediately??
[quote=md]So to prevent it, don’t refresh the page after posting.[/quote]
oops – sorry guys :-P
Meh.
[quote=man_traic]Isnt that what the artists page or labels page (whatever the engine is recommending) is for?[/quote]
true…just a different way of displaying it tho? Rather than trawling through lists and backpeddling, its there when you select a specific item…
Its a case of how quickly you want to access a different area. Everyone’s got different uses of the Discogs pages, so I can see how some would find it pretty useless.
But like I say, I’m new to the site, and I think its ok…
[Why do my posts duplicate???]
[quote=bobbley][Why do my posts duplicate???][/quote]
Because the programming of the forum software is as bad as the rest of the site’s programming. Unlike just about every other forum on the internet, if you refresh the page after posting, your post is submitted again. This didn’t use to be the case on Discogs, but those who’ve been around for a while longer than you can list many other changes that have been made which weren’t wanted, made using the site harder or less enjoyable, and were put in place while ignoring hundreds of critical bugs or feature requests.
So to prevent it, don’t refresh the page after posting.
[quote=bobbley][Why do my posts duplicate???][/quote]
Because your refreshing the page.
[quote=man_traic]Isnt that what the artists page or labels page (whatever the engine is recommending) is for?[/quote]
true…just a different way of displaying it tho? Rather than trawling through lists and backpeddling, its there when you select a specific item…
Its a case of how quickly you want to access a different area. Everyone’s got different uses of the Discogs pages, so I can see how some would find it pretty useless.
But like I say, I’m new to the site, and I think its ok…
[Why do my posts duplicate???]
another suggestion: give us an option to NOT have it recommend stuff in my wantlist. if it’s in there, I’m already looking for it, so no need to suggest it again.
[quote=TechElec]All the examples I’ve seen have been blindingly obvious or downright wrong.[/quote]
Like most recommendations are, in fairness
:prays for option to turn it off:
[quote=bobbley]its there when you select a specific item… [/quote]
But does it bears any relevance to said specific item? All the examples I’ve seen have been blindingly obvious or downright wrong.
[quote=man_traic]Isnt that what the artists page or labels page (whatever the engine is recommending) is for?[/quote]
true…just a different way of displaying it tho? Rather than trawling through lists and backpeddling, its there when you select a specific item…
Its a case of how quickly you want to access a different area. Everyone’s got different uses of the Discogs pages, so I can see how some would find it pretty useless.
But like I say, I’m new to the site, and I think its ok…
[Why do my posts duplicate???]
[quote=man_traic]Isnt that what the artists page or labels page (whatever the engine is recommending) is for?[/quote]
true…just a different way of displaying it tho? Rather than trawling through lists and backpeddling, its there when you select a specific item…
Its a case of how quickly you want to access a different area. Everyone’s got different uses of the Discogs pages, so I can see how some would find it pretty useless.
But like I say, I’m new to the site, and I think its ok…
[Why do my posts duplicate???]
From a sellers point of view I like how it works on the for sale details page http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/6130743 but as a normal user I don’t wanna see it on release pages while browsing.
sorry, [u=teo]. that’s as fuckin useless as your widgets .
if you have enough webspace for such gimmicks,
add 90×90 images to the collection and [u]EVERYONE[/u] here will applaud.
Seems that everything I look at tonight recommends [r=6352], from [r=65181] to [r=68245] … I think some filter by genre/year/other needs to be applied to increase relevency.
[quote=TechElec]People have managed just fine with the artist page until now.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote=bobbley]for someone who’s only got a handful of Prodigy releases, they could find it useful to see what other stuff they’re missing out on? or is that being too plainly obvious??[/quote]
People have managed just fine with the artist page until now.
[quote=man_traic]try reading my post next time.[/quote]
no need to be nasty!
for someone who’s only got a handful of Prodigy releases, they could find it useful to see what other stuff they’re missing out on? or is that being too plainly obvious??
Works for me with DM releases…
[Hopefully this only posts once!!]
[quote=bobbley]for someone who’s only got a handful of Prodigy releases, they could find it useful to see what other stuff they’re missing out on? or is that being too plainly obvious?? [/quote]
Isnt that what the artists page or labels page (whatever the engine is recommending) is for?
[quote=man_traic]try reading my post next time.[/quote]
no need to be nasty!
for someone who’s only got a handful of Prodigy releases, they could find it useful to see what other stuff they’re missing out on? or is that being too plainly obvious??
Works for me with DM releases…
[Hopefully this only posts once!!]
pretty cool, but please let us turn it off.
[quote=man_traic]This is awful.[/quote]
..be constructive: why is it awful?
[quote=bobbley]..be constructive: why is it awful?[/quote]
I was constructive. You can see it’s reccomending the plainly obvious, from my example. try reading my post next time.
[quote=man_traic]This is awful.[/quote]
..be constructive: why is it awful?
It’s incredible how many releases there are I didn’t even imagine existed XD
[quote]Prodigy, The – Everybody In The Place
Recommendations:
Prodigy, The – Out Of Space (12″)
Prodigy, The – Fire / Jericho (12″)
Prodigy, The – Wind It Up (Rewound) (12″)
Prodigy, The – No Good (Start The Dance) (12″)
Prodigy, The – One Love (12″)
[b]▸ 64 more recommendations[/b][/quote]
Gee. Wonder what those other 64 reccomendations are…
This is [i]awful.[/i]
I kind of like it. It’s not exactly the most urgent thing in the world that needed doing, but it dowes seem to basically work.
[quote=teo]Please post if you have any questions or suggestions for improvement! thanks[/quote]
Oh dear, useless page clutter. Provide some way to turn it off and then make some improvements to this long list of things that have actually been requested for months [url=http://www.discogs.com/disbugs]here[/url].
Thanks.
[quote=Qpchan]comments are way more useful than recommendations, please show the recommendations under the comments… more elements to be added (if possible): similar years as the release, common credits, style (+ ratings but not essential)[/quote]
:shivers:
Why not have a ‘hall of mirrors’ on every release page as well, while we’re at it?
The release page of every other release on every release page…
comments are way more useful than recommendations, please show the recommendations under the comments… more elements to be added (if possible): based on similar year as the release, common credits, style..and yes ratings maybe..
ps: and yes, something in options to turn it off as it will slow pages & annoy few people…
[quote=Josephschembri]Site is turning more and more sales oriented – we are being liquidated into cash – you like it ?[/quote]
Not necessarily to buy anything, but to point me in the direction of something I may be missing from my collection, or perhaps something I would buy and not seen/considered before…
[quote=Josephschembri]Site is turning more and more sales oriented – we are being liquidated into cash – you like it ?[/quote]
Not necessarily to buy anything, but to point me in the direction of something I may be missing from my collection, or perhaps something I would buy and not seen/considered before…
http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/topic/174454
All it does it recommend stuff from the same label your viewing, I already know I like the labels sound.
[quote=teo]Please post if you have any questions[/quote]
Wheres the button to turn it off?
[quote=teo]…or suggestions for improvement! thanks[/quote]
A button to turn it off?
How do I turn it off. It’s useless to me, clutters the pages and just adds to the slow loading of the site.
[quote=bobbley]yeah, just like Amazon – but I like it…[/quote]
Site is turning more and more sales oriented – we are being liquidated into cash – you like it ?
Makes the page very busy.. not digging it. Maybe incorporate it in the marketplace?
[quote=bobbley]but I like it…[/quote]
Me too, but it would be _so_ much more useful if the “master release” setup was in place…
yeah, just like Amazon – but I like it…
Eh ?! For a moment I thought I’m browsing amazon.com!
I want to turn that off please!
How do you turn it off?